"Insanely Fast Raptor R" ?

[RedEyeTRX]

Well the Monroney sticker lists the engine origin as United States on the TRX, on the 392 it lists engine origin as Mexico. But the funny thing is the TRX also lists parts content as MEXICO : 32% vs my 392 sticker which shows MEXICO : 21% so now I'm even more confused...

This says it was updated April 22.

Stellantis Media - Saltillo Engine Plant

Ramos Arizpe

media.stellantisnorthamerica.com

 

[TRX1]

Pretty sure the Hellcat engine comes out of the Saltillo Plant in Coahuila Mexico.
So you have an American designed engine, built/assembled in Mexico

Pretty sure the Hellcat engine comes out of the Saltillo Plant in Coahuila Mexico.
So you have an American designed engine, built/assembled in Mexico.

As long as the engine is made in America. Am fine with it
The assembly can be anywhere and that is just a way to pay less money for Mexican workers than if it were to be assembled in America.
Here is a quick life experience of mine.
I purchased a 2015 Benz back on 2015.
There were 2 of the Benzes
One of them has a German engine and a German transmission and assembled in Alabama state.
2nd Benz has a Mexican engine and assembled in Mexico.
Huge difference in prices. Therefore I will chose American engines over a Mexican one. That is me and I’ll stick with the TRX

 

[TRX1]

I don't like Fords but I'm not sure why that specific point is an issue. My 392 has a Mexican engine (as did my Power Wagon) and a German transmission. Those 6.4L Mexican engines seem to work just

I don't like Fords but I'm not sure why that specific point is an issue. My 392 has a Mexican engine (as did my Power Wagon) and a German transmission. Those 6.4L Mexican engines seem to work just fine...

It should work fine but if it was an American engine it would work better and I really don’t see it as an issues. It’s more like a preference, just like a walmart shirt vs a banana republic shirt but since we had a very bad experience with a gen 3 because we were mislead by the dealer when the sales said that the gen 3 is an American born.
I get it some dealers lie but still We should’ve done more research.

 

[@JC]

This says it was updated April 22.

Stellantis Media - Saltillo Engine Plant

Ramos Arizpe

media.stellantisnorthamerica.com

I'm still confused because brand new TRX builds still show the engine origin as United States on the TRX Monroneys and the part content from Mexico is down in the 28% range now.

 

[jmv2alpha]

I had 3 Raptors in the past and was a Ford fanboy. The 6.2 V8 was my favorite I bought it twice. Went to a gen 2, big let down. It was just all updated looks. Sat in a Gen 3, same dull feeling. Then Ford decided to do this Raptor R which will be very limited. So the TRX wins for me.

 

[EricnotwithaK]

I don't know how you can even compare this situation. This raptor R will be all but unobtainable. There have been lots of TRX trucks that I have seen listed even on this forum. Yes I agree the orders have been screwed up for some. But in todays world, what's not screwed up?? I wouldn't have that POS eco boost if someone gave it to me and there is no way in hell would I pay $50K ADM to get a raptor R even if there was one available. I promise you that there will NOT be one sold without a HUGE ADM.
MOST dealers won't even get one at all. This is apples and oranges....

Love this comment. Spottttttt ON

 

[ZTRX]

Sure. Brilliant comment. I imagine someone is proud of you....

Well, as of this writing, apparently 6 people are + me makes 7! Give it some more time (something you are clearly challenged against, just like my 7 year old) and I'm sure there will be more

Have fun replacing your cam phasers 17 times out of pocket bwahahaha

 

[TRXINAZ]

I say who cares how fast it is. It is still a Ford that will probably break down more than normal which is a lot! Top it off with a limited production and huge price point, we will probably never even see one in person.

 

[RobsTRX]

I've been watching some youtubers with "leaked news" on the R saying it will weight 6,300lbs and have the full 760Hp. $100k-$110k before ADMs.


Like some here posted 37s could be the real challenge.

IMO for it to be considered "insanely fast" it should be around 3.3s 0-60.
Some here have hit 3.5s on their TRXs with no mods

The only 3.5's being hit are on dysfunctional instruments. I have a Ripa 800 kit and I have a best time of 3.1 on the dash and 3.5 on dragy. I must say 3.1 on the dash sure feels good though

 

[foremanrd]

Well, as of this writing, apparently 6 people are + me makes 7! Give it some more time (something you are clearly challenged against, just like my 7 year old) and I'm sure there will be more

Have fun replacing your cam phasers 17 times out of pocket bwahahaha

This is rather sad. A grown man, yourself, a direct representation of the hate we have in our country. I merely commented my own personal lack of desire to wait out the poorly managed build process and got a 37. My buying a Raptor somehow became a personal attack on you, based on your eloquent responses. Lighten up bro; try a bit less hate, and/or anger, it's much more enjoyable that way. This is my third and I haven't replaced a one. At the end of the day, any one of them, they are just a truck....

 

[foremanrd]

So the short story is you ordered a TRX didnt like the wait and bought a Raptor instead.....okay good to know. Moving on........Or did you reorder ?

I'm holding out to see what the issue is before I subject myself to the crazy waiting game again. There is no way any of this process is by design.

 

[Transporter]

I will have to disagree with you my friend. Ford has a Mexican engine and an American transmission.
TRX on the other hand has an American made engine and a German transmission.
My brother had a 37 raptor. Nothing but problems and the worst nightmare was the cam phaser and ford doesn’t warranty that anymore.
I cancelled my raptor order and ordered a TRX.
Also if you were to visit the raptor gen 3 forums you will read nothing but issues.
Ram forums: all they talk about is how fast is the truck haha and what mods we should add to it and whatever TRXs issues I read here are very simple to fix.
Sorry if I bored you with my story.

Thanks! That's a great story indeed. I almost bought a Raptor as well. Had been enamored with the truck but have never had one. Alas, found the TRX and there was no going back. A buyer had ordered the truck, then backed out I think.

I thought I would be nice to Ford about those engines.

 

[ascott]

This is rather sad. A grown man, yourself, a direct representation of the hate we have in our country. I merely commented my own personal lack of desire to wait out the poorly managed build process and got a 37. My buying a Raptor somehow became a personal attack on you, based on your eloquent responses. Lighten up bro; try a bit less hate, and/or anger, it's much more enjoyable that way. This is my third and I haven't replaced a one. At the end of the day, any one of them, they are just a truck....

I’m confused…. So you don’t currently have an order/own a TRX, nor do you have an expressed desire to in the future?

You are on a RAM TRX enthusiast forum….you might not get the most welcoming responses to posts bashing RAM while not acknowledging the current production issues faced across all major manufactures (Ford included). Some of us had pleasant ordering/purchasing experiences - and likewise, I am sure there are plenty of Ford Bronco guys out there with the same general complaints you pinned on RAM.

All perspective. Just setting expectations, but you do you. Makes for entertainment, I suppose.

 

[foremanrd]

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I’m confused…. So you don’t currently have an order/own a TRX, nor do you have an expressed desire to in the future?

You are on a RAM TRX enthusiast forum….you might not get the most welcoming responses to posts bashing RAM while not acknowledging the current production issues faced across all major manufactures (Ford included). Some of us had pleasant ordering/purchasing experiences - and likewise, I am sure there are plenty of Ford Bronco guys out there with the same general complaints you pinned on RAM.

All perspective. Just setting expectations, but you do you. Makes for entertainment, I suppose.

I'm interested in at what point in any post, I had "bashed" RAM. I had a 318 on order, walked into someone else's ordered 37 that I couldnt pass on. So then I canceled and am waiting out to see what the issues are behind what we have been observing the last several months. As far as expectations, I believe that you and all would agree, a 246 vin should most certainly be built well before a 390 vin. I appreciate your concern however, for what my expectations are. You are easily entertained apparently bc there really hasn't been anything exciting said, however somewhere some bashing you observed....My expectations are what they are and they have 0 to do with branding. I appreciate the enthusiasm, however the point where it becomes more than that is what IS entertaining.

I feel my concern is legitimate in that if they can't fill original orders, how can they have parts on hand for warranty work. Your point is valid however. I believe that shortage should be a concern for any brand, and any model vehicle. So that concern led me to the 37 and out of the TRX. No loyalty to a truck, just opportunity and reading the tea leaves. The 3.5 TT has been around since 17, the 6.2 application in a truck, in its second year. All math and probabilities; history and observations, not brand bashing.

All truth being told, I really appreciated RAM upping their game and wanted a piece of Americana history in a super sweet rig. That didn't pan out for me just yet, but it doesn't mean that I don't give my hand at the viscous, hateful, RAM build scheduling carousel again. Only will happen if the 6.2 SC still sits inside though.

 

[ascott]

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I'm interested in at what point in any post, I had "bashed" RAM. I had a 318 on order, walked into someone else's ordered 37 that I couldnt pass on. So then I canceled and am waiting out to see what the issues are behind what we have been observing the last several months. As far as expectations, I believe that you and all would agree, a 246 vin should most certainly be built well before a 390 vin. I appreciate your concern however, for what my expectations are. You are easily entertained apparently bc there really hasn't been anything exciting said, however somewhere some bashing you observed....My expectations are what they are and they have 0 to do with branding. I appreciate the enthusiasm, however the point where it becomes more than that is what IS entertaining.

I feel my concern is legitimate in that if they can't fill original orders, how can they have parts on hand for warranty work. Your point is valid however. I believe that shortage should be a concern for any brand, and any model vehicle. So that concern led me to the 37 and out of the TRX. No loyalty to a truck, just opportunity and reading the tea leaves. The 3.5 TT has been around since 17, the 6.2 application in a truck, in its second year. All math and probabilities; history and observations, not brand bashing.

All truth being told, I really appreciated RAM upping their game and wanted a piece of Americana history in a super sweet rig. That didn't pan out for me just yet, but it doesn't mean that I don't give my hand at the viscous, hateful, RAM build scheduling carousel again. Only will happen if the 6.2 SC still sits inside though.

Maybe it was something about the tone of your original post and calling people clowns….haha. And yes. I am easily entertained. I love YouTube cat videos.

On a more serious note - sounds like your reply was well balanced and I appreciate it. Hopefully things pan out the way you want in the future.

 

[foremanrd]

Maybe it was something about the tone of your original post and calling people clowns….haha. And yes. I am easily entertained. I love YouTube cat videos.

On a more serious note - sounds like your reply was well balanced and I appreciate it. Hopefully things pan out the way you want in the future.

I definitely understand your thoughts on my tone. With my frustration, I can't help but feel like those behind the scenes on this are actually dressed the part they've played from my perspective, clowns and it makes it a bit more understandable. I am slightly butthurt that those clowns gave me time and space to change my mind. It's rather frustrating and I wasn't one of those guys with a 246 or earlier, STILL waiting. I have first world problems and it would be easily solved if I could somehow swing owning both trucks. I'm very blessed, but that would be very irresponsible in this very fiscally uncertain/challenging/trying era.

Meanwhile, I appreciate reading all posts about the truck I didn't have the patience to wait out, just yet.

I believe you are on to something. Just maybe we all could use a few YouTube cat videos.

 

[ascott]

I get where you are coming from - I waited almost 6 months for mine….if math is correct. Ordered 1 DEC 21 and picked up mid MAY. I expected the wait to be long and painful all while hoping the juice was worth the squeeze haha. Then, as I made my way thru production, all the posts about shipping delays and possible resulting damages started to surface. It definitely made for an anxious experience, but I had a 21 Rebel as my daily driver so I wasn’t without a vehicle at least. Another member said it best (reference the ordering process). “May the odds be ever in your favor”. Still makes me smile.

I’ll tell you tho, both before and after ordering my TRX, I definitely stopped at a couple Ford dealers looking for a Gen 3 Raptor to evaluate. Just never found one haha. I had been wanting one of those for the past 4 years, and at the time, if you wanted an off-road super truck, Ford was the only player. I think they are great trucks too - but the interior isn’t quite the same feel as the TRX which I’ve come to love. I wish I could own both too…haha. Along with a Revology Mustang. And a Porsche of some kind. And a mansion to keep them all haha.

It’s nice to see a little rivalry between the two - as others have stated, I think they push each other to be better - which we all benefit from.

 

[wac45]

I can certainly relate to your frustration level as my build took over 8 months. I may also have thrown in the towel but there was nothing else out there that to me compared to the TRX so I felt I had no real choice. I had just come out of a 2020 Raptor which was nice but just didn't excite me. I just had to have the V8 again. I am glad now that I stuck it out and have been very satisfied with the TRX.

I don't know if you plan on going to the Raptor Assault School but if you haven't been you should go. It was really impressive to experience the capabilities of the truck first hand. (I don't have much off road experience and if you do it would not be such an eye opener but still well worth the time) A good friend of mine just got a 2022 Raptor and it is certainly an upgrade over the Gen 2 in my opinion.

It is one of the mysteries of life how Ram determines their build order.

 

[Sabre]

Ford has kept me, and everyone else, waiting forever on this vapour ware Raptor R. When i got fed up last July, 2021, I ordered a TRX no over. And actually a real truck was delivered 28 March, 2022. I love it. It's mountains better than my 2020 Raptor.

I'm so pissed off at Ford, I don't really care about the R anymore. And let's be almost objective about an irrational purchase: a truck faster than a TRX..... Hard to be objective isn't it? But I rarely step on the TRX anyway. Guys who do road miles might use the incremental power... and I've got 3,000 HP in the garages across 5 cars/trucks, so I've proven to be insanely irrational about HP and T.

 

[gbon]