Effective, Inexpensive, Simple Security Device

[trashguy]

Sorry if i missed it, but has anyone spoke to the people who make the Tazer or any tuner about programming some kind of start sequence or valet code. Kind of like the one dodge is releasing for the chargers.

 

[ActionDH]

Thinking about this all wrong, need to be on the offensive, lock and hide native OBDII port, install dummy OBDII port attached to kill device, fry the unsuspecting thief’s hardware. Maybe prevent the next theft,

 

[Tom488]

Forgive me if I missed this- I saw a few comments about using aux switches but I didn't see any real conclusion. Is it possible to wire in a specific sequence like: aux switch 1 and 3 have to be on before the truck will start? I realize this could negate having remote start at times, but in a sketchy area, you would flip them off, and when you get in, just switch them on?

Well, you could ALMOST do what you wanted to, if the "remember last state" of the Aux switches worked. I'm not sure if this was ever fixed in the 22's, but I do know that most 21's don't remember the Aux switch settings between starts. Rumor had it a software update was coming out soon to finally fix that. But until that function works, you can only wire things such that you have to toggle the Aux switch(es) on each time you want to start the truck.

 

[Badbrad]

Located driver and passenger side.

 

[Hello4x]

Located driver and passenger side.

So this makes the obd saver obsolete. If this is accurate, I wouldn’t make the Mobilistic device trigger from anything remote related (folks looking to tap into remote start functionality, horn, parking lights etc).

 

[Grey03svt]

So this makes the obd saver obsolete. If this is accurate, I wouldn’t make the Mobilistic device trigger from anything remote related (folks looking to tap into remote start functionality, horn, parking lights etc).

I wonder if there is anything to block the open ports...not too sure what all is plugged into that harness. There has to be something. Superglue? Giant ball of JB weld?

 

[Badbrad]

I wonder if there is anything to block the open ports...not too sure what all is plugged into that harness. There has to be something. Superglue? Giant ball of JB weld?

I've seen another video where they make pins and plug it into an existing port. I was thinking about getting some Tessa tape and tape the crap out of them?

 

[Tom488]

I wonder if there is anything to block the open ports...not too sure what all is plugged into that harness. There has to be something. Superglue? Giant ball of JB weld?

That's just a CAN bus hub - much like your ethernet switch at home, where you can plug any device into any available port. On our Rams, it's located behind the dash, on the left-hand side. But yeah, you don't need the OBD port to get access to the CAN bus. Heck, you could just get a couple of spring-loaded vampire taps, and tap the wires directly - don't even need a port to plug in to.

 

[Hello4x]

That's just a CAN bus hub - much like your ethernet switch at home, where you can plug any device into any available port. On our Rams, it's located behind the dash, on the left-hand side. But yeah, you don't need the OBD port to get access to the CAN bus. Heck, you could just get a couple of spring-loaded vampire taps, and tap the wires directly - don't even need a port to plug in to.

Thanks @Tom488. You are the Solution Architect on the forum . Any creative ideas to stop this type of intrusion?

 

[Grey03svt]

That's just a CAN bus hub - much like your ethernet switch at home, where you can plug any device into any available port. On our Rams, it's located behind the dash, on the left-hand side. But yeah, you don't need the OBD port to get access to the CAN bus. Heck, you could just get a couple of spring-loaded vampire taps, and tap the wires directly - don't even need a port to plug in to.

So I vote to fill entire dash cavity with expanding foam. Otherwise I'm all out of ideas

 

[Tom488]

Thanks @Tom488. You are the Solution Architect on the forum . Any creative ideas to stop this type of intrusion?

Ya know what's funny (and sad) about that comment? We just recently converted our whole work process over to the Agile system, and that's really my work title now

As for ideas... no, not really - you can't disrupt the CAN bus without breaking lots of other things.

 

[Hello4x]

Ya know what's funny (and sad) about that comment? We just recently converted our whole work process over to the Agile system, and that's really my work title now

As for ideas... no, not really - you can't disrupt the CAN bus without breaking lots of other things.

Hahah. I work with many Solution Architects and acquired the vibe from your syntax.

Let’s hope the Mobilistics device saves the day.

 

[Necrosan]

As mentioned before - the only real solution to the problem of these trucks being entirely way too easy to steal is a firmware update that locks the RF hub from adding new fobs. Until that comes out, things like the mobilistics relay or removing random fuses/relay by hand will suffice. I personally wouldn't spend any money on an aftermarket alarm (RavelCo, Viper, etc), as those are just another bandage and essentially duplicating the functionality of the much cheaper mobilistics relay/manual (fuse|relay) removal.

Also, don't waste your money on an OBD port blocker. Those literally do nothing to slow down someone that knows how to steal these vehicles. They do help with making your wallet a bit lighter if you're into that, though.

 

[Badbrad]

 

[Grey03svt]

The fuck...

 

[Notachevy]

I've been reading through this thread and sorry if I missed it, but isn't this system easily defeated by just replacing the Mobilistics relay with the OEM one? Sure that slows the thief down a little. They've got to pop the hood, get in the relay box, carry a handful of OEM relays... but now that they know what to look for...

 

[Fifty]

I just want to say thank you. My plans of having the truck shipped went out the window and I had to fly out to Iowa last minute. I took a 2 stop redeye and got no sleep, and bad sleep the night before.
So my first day of driving was cut way short and I had to park the truck in a public garage.

That relay is sitting in my pocket next to my key fobs lol! I guess they could push the truck but it will be that much harder.

So thank you for the free overnight added security system!

 

[Mud Rat]

I've been reading through this thread and sorry if I missed it, but isn't this system easily defeated by just replacing the Mobilistics relay with the OEM one? Sure that slows the thief down a little. They've got to pop the hood, get in the relay box, carry a handful of OEM relays... but now that they know what to look for...

Easily defeated that way, but let's hope the pool of TRX thieves that are aware of and prepared for this gadget is small. On post #145 Tom488 even showed how to camouflage the relay. Nothing is foolproof though.

 

[Claasicdrive]

I just want to say thank you. My plans of having the truck shipped went out the window and I had to fly out to Iowa last minute. I took a 2 stop redeye and got no sleep, and bad sleep the night before.
So my first day of driving was cut way short and I had to park the truck in a public garage.

That relay is sitting in my pocket next to my key fobs lol! I guess they could push the truck but it will be that much harder.

So thank you for the free overnight added security system!

Where are you ? What city ?

 

[Mud Rat]

I just want to say thank you. My plans of having the truck shipped went out the window and I had to fly out to Iowa last minute. I took a 2 stop redeye and got no sleep, and bad sleep the night before.
So my first day of driving was cut way short and I had to park the truck in a public garage.

That relay is sitting in my pocket next to my key fobs lol! I guess they could push the truck but it will be that much harder.

So thank you for the free overnight added security system!

Don't forget to put your fobs in a faraday bag while at the hotel.