740rwhp 93 octane TRX write up

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

Yup, should be no issue. I’ll be curious to see the data on IC temps at the end of 1/4 mile pulls with the chiller on and off.

Yes but id also be curious to see if there’s a diff btwn chiller with reservoir tank vs no tank. Kirk tells me the tank is a must but I know he was selling them for years without a tank so it can’t be useless without the reservoir tank right?!

If chiller with no tank can get me a solid 0-60 or qtr mile pull in the Fla heat without heat-soaking and pulling timing, then id prolly pull the trigger.

 

[AZDinoPwr]

Yes but id also be curious to see if there’s a diff btwn chiller with reservoir tank vs no tank. Kirk tells me the tank is a must but I know he was selling them for years without a tank so it can’t be useless without the reservoir tank right?!

If chiller with no tank can get me a solid 0-60 or qtr mile pull in the Fla heat without heat-soaking and pulling timing, then id prolly pull the trigger.

Chiller with no tank can definitely handle the 0-60 pulls. I’ll see how it holds up with the 1/4 mile.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

That’s more work. I’ve done my part, the burden of proof is on y’all. Let me know what the results are.

Sounds like someone got SOLD a snow job from the tuner / dyno guys !
But since you say "the science is settled", its all good.

BTW......My 100% stock TRX just did a HUB DYNO pull of 10,000 HP to the ground, with just a bag of convenience store ICE on the blower and 85 octane pump gas! Well, it did have a little help from the squirrels on an exercise wheel, that powered the leaf blowers, connected to the TRX intake.

Now that I have provided my 100% proof (aka forum post) of my epic, world record breaking, physics defying dyno pull........now the "burden of proof" is on everyone else to catch up with me !

 

[Jesse56]

Sounds like someone got SOLD a snow job from the tuner / dyno guys !
But since you say "the science is settled", its all good.

BTW......My 100% stock TRX just did a HUB DYNO pull of 10,000 HP to the ground, with just a bag of convenience store ICE on the blower and 85 octane pump gas! Well, it did have a little help from the squirrels on an exercise wheel, that powered the leaf blowers, connected to the TRX intake.

Now that I have provided my 100% proof (aka forum post) of my epic, world record breaking, physics defying dyno pull........now the "burden of proof" is on everyone else to catch up with me !

Those must be some epic squirrels, mine only added 2000 hp

 

[Guest3695]

Sounds like someone got SOLD a snow job from the tuner / dyno guys !
But since you say "the science is settled", its all good.

BTW......My 100% stock TRX just did a HUB DYNO pull of 10,000 HP to the ground, with just a bag of convenience store ICE on the blower and 85 octane pump gas! Well, it did have a little help from the squirrels on an exercise wheel, that powered the leaf blowers, connected to the TRX intake.

Now that I have provided my 100% proof (aka forum post) of my epic, world record breaking, physics defying dyno pull........now the "burden of proof" is on everyone else to catch up with me !

That's awesome! If you install one of those Tornado devices in front of the throttle body, you'll add another 500HP. I installed one in a friend's Hyundai Elantra and he runs high 9s now! I've seen it, so it's 100% true! It's the quickest Elantra in San Antonio!

 

[AZDinoPwr]

Sounds like someone got SOLD a snow job from the tuner / dyno guys !
But since you say "the science is settled", its all good.

BTW......My 100% stock TRX just did a HUB DYNO pull of 10,000 HP to the ground, with just a bag of convenience store ICE on the blower and 85 octane pump gas! Well, it did have a little help from the squirrels on an exercise wheel, that powered the leaf blowers, connected to the TRX intake.

Now that I have provided my 100% proof (aka forum post) of my epic, world record breaking, physics defying dyno pull........now the "burden of proof" is on everyone else to catch up with me !

Oh how I have missed you. When I opened the forum page and saw I had a dozen notifications my first thought was that you must have read this thread finally.

Scubasteve needs to stick to keeping his head under water and maybe make a new account if he ever wants to be taken seriously on here.

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

Chiller with no tank can definitely handle the 0-60 pulls. I’ll see how it holds up with the 1/4 mile.

I’m assuming you have no tank? If the truck starts to heat soak towards the end of the quarter-mile pull, is your plan to add the tank at that time?

 

[AZDinoPwr]

I’m assuming you have no tank? If the truck starts to heat soak towards the end of the quarter-mile pull, is your plan to add the tank at that time?

No tank and no plan to add. Super rare that I ever run the truck out a full 1/4 mile to 115 MPH +. Really only done for the data. And would rather have the quick recovery time in stop and go driving.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

Those must be some epic squirrels, mine only added 2000 hp

I juice them with D-bol and Deca, they are bad ass, ripped squirrels.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

Oh how I have missed you. When I opened the forum page and saw I had a dozen notifications my first thought was that you must have read this thread finally.

Scubasteve needs to stick to keeping his head under water and maybe make a new account if he ever wants to be taken seriously on here.

Right??? I must have been frickin sleeping to have missed this one and been so late to party! It was a popcorn thread for sure. Scubasteve has gone ghost ,no surprise..... Cheers !

Edit: Maybe Scubasteve got a bad tank of Nitrox.....causing hallucinations during his dyno pull !!!!

 

[RedEyeTRX]

That's awesome! If you install one of those Tornado devices in front of the throttle body, you'll add another 500HP. I installed one in a friend's Hyundai Elantra and he runs high 9s now! I've seen it, so it's 100% true! It's the quickest Elantra in San Antonio!

I completely forgot about the Tornado spacers on the TB !!!! If I put one on each leaf blower, it will give me an extra 1000 HP !!!! WOW! Just ordered 2 from Amazon, I will post the results tomorrow fingers crossed for 11,000 HP to the ground.

 

[PhoenixTRX]

I completely forgot about the Tornado spacers on the TB !!!! If I put one on each leaf blower, it will give me an extra 1000 HP !!!! WOW! Just ordered 2 from Amazon, I will post the results tomorrow fingers crossed for 11,000 HP to the ground.

Flashbacks!! ...having joined a Honda Odyssey forum back in 04', seeking kinfolk who were also enthusiasts but by lifestyle/need bought one. The damn repetitive posts about the merits of the Tornado spacers literally imploded many members. I feel a little guilty, often defaulting to 'fuckery' having naively appearing skeptical at first then author appealing newfound experiences backed by quasi scientific proof (citing magazine and independent lab sources that um... don't exist). I assume you also flipped the OEM air cleaner lid too?

Focusing on exhaust, we recently replaced our SLP Loudmouths with 'Whistle Tips'.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

Flashbacks!! ...having joined a Honda Odyssey forum back in 04', seeking kinfolk who were also enthusiasts but by lifestyle/need bought one. The damn repetitive posts about the merits of the Tornado spacers literally imploded many members. I feel a little guilty, often defaulting to 'fuckery' having naively appearing skeptical at first then author appealing newfound experiences backed by quasi scientific proof (citing magazine and independent lab sources that um... don't exist). I assume you also flipped the OEM air cleaner lid too?

Focusing on exhaust, we recently replaced our SLP Loudmouths with 'Whistle Tips'.

Yes sir I did.....because flipping the old round air filter lid was good for LOTS of intake sound and at least another 500 HP! Problem was, when flipped the wing nut didnt have very many threads to grab......but who cares about little things like the air cleaner falling off when you could HEAR all that extra power!!!!????

 

[Guest3695]

Hey...where did the OP go? Maybe he's having his truck dyno'd again, just to "prove" his claims!

 

[RedEyeTRX]

Hey...where did the OP go? Maybe he's having his truck dyno'd again, just to "prove" his claims!

Lets put it this way.....he DID have his truck dyno'd again and the numbers were not anywhere near his claims of 740rwhp or he talked to someone else who set him straight. And now he has gone GHOST !

 

[AZDinoPwr]

Damn, someone is hurt. I just posted my numbers and the dudes on cialis started crying. I am not saying my numbers are 100%, im asking someone else with a similar build to verify. Maybe one day someone will, or ill just take it to a different dyno.

How about take it to a different dyno or even the dynojet at Hammer Built? Why did you ask for the main line dyno and take the wheels out of it? So I had a nice chat with the folks at Hammer Built about your build. This was their response:

Even your own shop and tuner acknowledges that the results on the hub dyno are not accurate and higher than they would see on the roller or reality. They also said that your build produced 12.5 PSI and had plenty of fuel left on the stock injectors meaning you are nowhere near the theoretical limit (about 720whp) or 740whp.

Let’s take it a step further though… this is their dynojet data showing a stock pull putting down 605rwhp.

By your own admission you know that the stock truck puts down around 560-570awhp. So we already know that their rwd dynojet is reading ~45whp high. If you take into account that for some reason they only did stock pulls to 5800 RPM when the stock redline is 6200 RPM then that 45whp delta increases. Here is how the stock dyno should look for RPM:

What is worthwhile is that Hammer Builts dyno data shows a ~50whp gain with the incognito and 70whp gain with incognito and tune (raising redline account for most of this). We know the chiller generates 30-40whp gain on the hellcat/trackhawk/TRX . So in reality your whp is likely somewhere around 560+70+40= 670 whp. This is still great and should make anyone happy.

The short answer is that Hammer Builts rwd dyno is already reading higher than actual whp and they readily admit that the hub dyno is reading even higher than that.

Look Daniel I get that you were ecstatic to see a big number on the dyno for your truck. You were so happy and eager for attention from everyone that you posted on here, on fb, messaged Kirk, etc. But this forum is about facts and data rather than people’s feelings or fairy dust so you’re not going to get coddled when you post something that everyone knows is fake…including your own shop. Now you could be of actual value to the forum and get dragy data or you can keep trying to piss into the wind and defend these “results.” Choice is yours whether you want to be defensive and childish like some teenager throwing a tantrum or readily admit you were wrong and get actual good data for people. (Otherwise why the hell are you on here?)

 

[RedEyeTRX]

How about take it to a different dyno or even the dynojet at Hammer Built? Why did you ask for the main line dyno and take the wheels out of it? So I had a nice chat with the folks at Hammer Built about your build. This was their response:
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Even your own shop and tuner acknowledges that the results on the hub dyno are not accurate and higher than they would see on the roller or reality. They also said that your build produced 12.5 PSI and had plenty of fuel left on the stock injectors meaning you are nowhere near the theoretical limit (about 720whp) or 740whp.

Let’s take it a step further though… this is their dynojet data showing a stock pull putting down 605rwhp.
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By your own admission you know that the stock truck puts down around 560-570awhp. So we already know that their rwd dynojet is reading ~45whp high. If you take into account that for some reason they only did stock pulls to 5800 RPM when the stock redline is 6200 RPM then that 45whp delta increases. Here is how the stock dyno should look for RPM:
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What is worthwhile is that Hammer Builts dyno data shows a ~50whp gain with the incognito and 70whp gain with incognito and tune (raising redline account for most of this). We know the chiller generates 30-40whp gain on the hellcat/trackhawk/TRX . So in reality your whp is likely somewhere around 560+70+40= 670 whp. This is still great and should make anyone happy.

The short answer is that Hammer Builts rwd dyno is already reading higher than actual whp and they readily admit that the hub dyno is reading even higher than that.

Look Daniel I get that you were ecstatic to see a big number on the dyno for your truck. You were so happy and eager for attention from everyone that you posted on here, on fb, messaged Kirk, etc. But this forum is about facts and data rather than people’s feelings or fairy dust so you’re not going to get coddled when you post something that everyone knows is fake…including your own shop. Now you could be of actual value to the forum and get dragy data or you can keep trying to piss into the wind and defend these “results.” Choice is yours whether you want to be defensive and childish like some teenager throwing a tantrum or readily admit you were wrong and get actual good data for people. (Otherwise why the hell are you on here?)

Oh shit.....ScubaGuy debunked by his OWN shop !!!! He will never show up on the forum again.....

 

[goAddy]

How about take it to a different dyno or even the dynojet at Hammer Built? Why did you ask for the main line dyno and take the wheels out of it? So I had a nice chat with the folks at Hammer Built about your build. This was their response:
View attachment 116452

Even your own shop and tuner acknowledges that the results on the hub dyno are not accurate and higher than they would see on the roller or reality. They also said that your build produced 12.5 PSI and had plenty of fuel left on the stock injectors meaning you are nowhere near the theoretical limit (about 720whp) or 740whp.

Let’s take it a step further though… this is their dynojet data showing a stock pull putting down 605rwhp.
View attachment 116453

By your own admission you know that the stock truck puts down around 560-570awhp. So we already know that their rwd dynojet is reading ~45whp high. If you take into account that for some reason they only did stock pulls to 5800 RPM when the stock redline is 6200 RPM then that 45whp delta increases. Here is how the stock dyno should look for RPM:
View attachment 116454

What is worthwhile is that Hammer Builts dyno data shows a ~50whp gain with the incognito and 70whp gain with incognito and tune (raising redline account for most of this). We know the chiller generates 30-40whp gain on the hellcat/trackhawk/TRX . So in reality your whp is likely somewhere around 560+70+40= 670 whp. This is still great and should make anyone happy.

The short answer is that Hammer Builts rwd dyno is already reading higher than actual whp and they readily admit that the hub dyno is reading even higher than that.

Look Daniel I get that you were ecstatic to see a big number on the dyno for your truck. You were so happy and eager for attention from everyone that you posted on here, on fb, messaged Kirk, etc. But this forum is about facts and data rather than people’s feelings or fairy dust so you’re not going to get coddled when you post something that everyone knows is fake…including your own shop. Now you could be of actual value to the forum and get dragy data or you can keep trying to piss into the wind and defend these “results.” Choice is yours whether you want to be defensive and childish like some teenager throwing a tantrum or readily admit you were wrong and get actual good data for people. (Otherwise why the hell are you on here?)

This is one of the most brutal beat downs I think I have seen on the internet handled in the most classy way I have ever seen.

One thing I would like to add to this @AZDinoPwr , "you can argue with a fool, but it only proves there are two" - Mark Twain.

You are obviously incredibly smart and experienced, everyone knew he was full of it. You could tell by the limit of his knowledge in the way he describes the results, or he's trolling. A simple A/F or Fuel Injector calculator with the power he describes is at the top or beyond the theoretical limit. Sometimes its best to walk away.

But thanks for the good read!

 

[AZDinoPwr]

This is one of the most brutal beat downs I think I have seen on the internet handled in the most classy way I have ever seen.

One thing I would like to add to this @AZDinoPwr , "you can argue with a fool, but it only proves there are two" - Mark Twain.

You are obviously incredibly smart and experienced, everyone knew he was full of it. You could tell by the limit of his knowledge in the way he describes the results, or he's trolling. A simple A/F or Fuel Injector calculator with the power he describes is at the top or beyond the theoretical limit. Sometimes its best to walk away.

But thanks for the good read!

 

[goAddy]

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I actually laughed out loud at this!