My First TRX Was Stolen & Then RAM Factory Just Cancelled My Replacement Order After Flagging Me As A "Flipper"

[Eighty]

I’m not interested in arguing with anyone, but just wanted to put in some food for thought.
Flipping a truck is really no different than flipping real estate, day trading stocks, playing the commodities markets, or even selling collectibles/antiques. All of these activities are based on buying something with the sole intent of selling it later at a profit.
I don’t particularly care for it, as it does make for hardship on regular buyers (such as a family looking for a new home). But it’s a free market, and that’s what our society is built on. Controlling the free trade of these things become a slippery slope, and should be reserved only for true abuse (like emergency supplies during a crisis event).

 

[Billhartz]

Tesla exists today only because of government (taxpayers) assistance via incentives, grants, phony carbon credits, etc...

Truth

 

[Raven]

Que the tired bitter old man "I put my daughter through MIT and she cured cancer ... blah blah blah" response. 3, 2, 1 .....

I think you mean "queue". "Que" is Spanish for "what". Que idiota. LMAO.

 

[Raven]

I’m not interested in arguing with anyone, but just wanted to put in some food for thought.
Flipping a truck is really no different than flipping real estate, day trading stocks, playing the commodities markets, or even selling collectibles/antiques. All of these activities are based on buying something with the sole intent of selling it later at a profit.
I don’t particularly care for it, as it does make for hardship on regular buyers (such as a family looking for a new home). But it’s a free market, and that’s what our society is built on. Controlling the free trade of these things become a slippery slope, and should be reserved only for true abuse (like emergency supplies during a crisis event).

As I have posted before, I'm all for free markets. However, if you go back and read this entire thread you will see that the OP can't order a new TRX after his was stolen because RAM cracked down on multiple orders due to flippers. Some here are blaming RAM. I'm blaming the flippers.

 

[Claasicdrive]

As I have posted before, I'm all for free markets. However, if you go back and read this entire thread you will see that the OP can't order a new TRX after his was stolen because RAM cracked down on multiple orders due to flippers. Some here are blaming RAM. I'm blaming the flippers.

She might cure cancer but she should've tried to cure dementia so she can help her father . The only help you can get now is from drphil.com

 

[Eighty]

As I have posted before, I'm all for free markets. However, if you go back and read this entire thread you will see that the OP can't order a new TRX after his was stolen because RAM cracked down on multiple orders due to flippers. Some here are blaming RAM. I'm blaming the flippers.

Understood. I guess I’m saying that Ram shouldn’t have cracked down on this. It is really outside of their purview in my mind. They take orders and build trucks to fulfill the orders. What a dealer (or buyer) does with it after that is their own business. Ram hasn’t seen fit to crack down on ADM by dealers, so why stifle private sellers?

 

[cowgomoo]

As I have posted before, I'm all for free markets. However, if you go back and read this entire thread you will see that the OP can't order a new TRX after his was stolen because RAM cracked down on multiple orders due to flippers. Some here are blaming RAM. I'm blaming the flippers.

I agree. And all the people ordering multiples to see which dealer gets you one first. Just think how many filler orders there are.

 

[cowgomoo]

Understood. I guess I’m saying that Ram shouldn’t have cracked down on this. It is really outside of their purview in my mind. They take orders and build trucks to fulfill the orders. What a dealer (or buyer) does with it after that is their own business. Ram hasn’t seen fit to crack down on ADM by dealers, so why stifle private sellers?

Because it’s makes people like us wait 6 months to get our TRX due to people trying to make a buck.

 

[Eighty]

And just to feed the bickering, the correct term would be “cue the tired bitter old man”.
Queue = line something up
Cue = signal someone or something to start

 

[Eighty]

Because it’s makes people like us wait 6 months to get our TRX due to people trying to make a buck.

True. But that really is the nature of capitalism. Just like real estate or stocks. If our society converted to “everything in life is fair for everyone”, then we would be a socialist or communist society.

 

[Eighty]

I should follow that up with - I dislike that the flipping is happening. But in the grand scheme of things, we have to accept the downsides of our society in order to have the upsides.

 

[Neenah]

I went too far. He should be rightfully proud of a daughter that graduate from MIT. it is not easy raising kids and he obviously did something right.

 

[DulcejuanDiaz]

I dunno. Show StellantiS a copy of the policy report to validate your concern or just walk over to the Ford dealership and buy a Raptor instead.

 

[LokiKai]

So if I sold my 2018 Ram 2500 to a Dealer and made 15K over what I paid 3 years ago, or my wife's 2020 ZR2 Diesel for 9K more than I paid 18 months ago, and my 2015 Megacab for what I gave for it 6 years ago does that make me a FLIPPER??? If you can buy the truck or 10 trucks you own them so do whatever the hell YOU want with them. FREE COUNTRY! If you want to live where someone decides who can or cannot buy or own something there are societies like that and I fear we are becoming one quickly because of whining assholes that don't get everything they want exactly when and the way they want it snowflake socialists. BTW has it been determined the OP didn't FLIP his FIRST order???? Do a post search. Certainly looks like he was trying to Re-home some. I could give a shit either way because Ram is going to build as many of these trucks as they possibly can, flipped or not and believe me there will be so many for cheap in 5-6 years you will get one for HALF what they are today maybe less. Just like the SRT-10 Rams that were selling for 18K in 2012. Yes, I have multiple orders and NO, I am NOT flipping. If you read my post I'm a little lite in the fleet department right now.

 

[Phillytrx]

More please and some

 

[LokiKai]

More please and some

BAD day at work . Came on here and this tread is STILL grinding on. Just have the damned insurance company replace the damned truck. Hell, I'll sell them one of mine for MSRP and order another. But wait......would that make me a FLIPPER

 

[zaimer]

BAD day at work . Came on here and this tread is STILL grinding on. Just have the damned insurance company replace the damned truck. Hell, I'll sell them one of mine for MSRP and order another. But wait......would that make me a FLIPPER

Bad WEEK at work here lol. I was hoping the news of my trucks arrival would lighten the mood, but it’s not at the dealer yet. I agree with your posts.

 

[a.mazzarelli]

I’m not interested in arguing with anyone, but just wanted to put in some food for thought.
Flipping a truck is really no different than flipping real estate, day trading stocks, playing the commodities markets, or even selling collectibles/antiques. All of these activities are based on buying something with the sole intent of selling it later at a profit.
I don’t particularly care for it, as it does make for hardship on regular buyers (such as a family looking for a new home). But it’s a free market, and that’s what our society is built on. Controlling the free trade of these things become a slippery slope, and should be reserved only for true abuse (like emergency supplies during a crisis event).

"Like emergency supplies during a crisis event" or dozens of TRX buyers waiting months for their trucks to be done. IMO there's a big difference from flipping houses and the other examples. Here dozens of buyers are waiting for their trucks. It could be argued that buying a TRX only to flip it contributes to the wait.

 

[zaimer]

"Like emergency supplies during a crisis event" or dozens of TRX buyers waiting months for their trucks to be done. IMO there's a big difference from flipping houses and the other examples. Here dozens of buyers are waiting for their trucks. It could be argued that buying a TRX only to flip it contributes to the wait.

Sooo what about the guy who ordered last month and his truck is in his garage already? There are a few more pieces to this puzzle than singling out any said flippers. The guys placing 2 or 3 orders to get one quicker are absolutely no better, even if the intentions are different. The mobs always jump on the easiest group/people they can crucify with some sort of justification.

 

[Eighty]

"Like emergency supplies during a crisis event" or dozens of TRX buyers waiting months for their trucks to be done. IMO there's a big difference from flipping houses and the other examples. Here dozens of buyers are waiting for their trucks. It could be argued that buying a TRX only to flip it contributes to the wait.

Remembering we are having a good spirited debate here (not pointed at you, just reminding everyone to be professional)….
While I feel the pain of waiting for backlogged orders, and I lived it for almost 7 months, I’m going to say that’s not the fault of flippers. That’s the fault of FCA/Stellantis and their screwed up build process.
But that aside, I don’t think that anyone should stifle a buyer’s ability to do what they want with a purchase. If you want to set it on fire and drive it off a cliff, that’s your business. Sell it for a profit - your business.
The minute that a producer dictates the post-purchase terms, we fall into chaos. What if your grocer said you’re only allowed to cook your steaks well-done at home, as a condition of purchase? None of his business.
What if FCA said you can’t modify your truck, as a condition of purchase? To me, it’s no different than an attempt to stipulate someone’s ability to sell a vehicle.