I had IGLA for 5 Days. What you should know before installing.

[Exec_TRX]

Makes you wonder how hard it would be for FCA to add a Pin sequence or app authentication to our cars as it is.

They have the Valet mode….

Perhaps something that would let you turn on or off, but also doesn’t allow can-bus access without “security mode” being disabled.

Obviously the big problem here is how accessible these tech tablets are, so they’d need to figure out a way that makes it undefeatable?

Yea they are onto something with the fix they issued For the charger/challengers on the pin valet mode that almost zeroes out the power, but it’s resettable from a battery pull, as folks have said. Would have to be hardware based and stored to a module to survive that, but alongside the better alarm they’ve installed on those now it’s a decent fix.

The biggest issue with the Trx is the shit alarm and lack of shock and break sensor immobilization. The tablet thing is good you mention that, not sure what can be done there, even from a law enforcement perspective you’d need to make it illegal to posses, and then seize and sellers doing so without locksmith creds.

Prevent them from getting in the car in the first place. The ability to slow Time and create noise foils most crime.

 

[Redeyecrazy]

That's why I opted against IGLA and had the Compustar T-13 installed. I love it!

afraid the compustar will not stop your car or truck from being stolen - it will tell you if window breaks or if it tilts onto a truck bed - RAVELCO and/or IGLA will absolutely stop your vehicle from being stolen unless it is loaded onto a truck (in which case the compustar will tell you its time to call the insurance agent to file a claim for your stolen vehicle).

 

[Redeyecrazy]

Don't they do different things?

wildly different - compustar tells you when your car is being stolen while RAVELCO/IGLA stop it from being stolen.

 

[mc4523]

No, only toyota/lexus has the ability to turn off the bidirectional signal on the key fob. They are always sending and receiving.

some of the newer GM models (trucks, SUVs, etc) have fobs that go to sleep after a period of inactivity seemingly to battle relay attacks.

 

[DinoBoy]

Ravelco here and I'm VERY happy with it! You dont have to pull the plug every time so the truck will start and work as normal. When you do pull the plug, its so easy to reinstall. After youve done it a few times, muscle memory kicks in and you can literally have it plugged back in in a couple of seconds. It gives me peace of mind when I use it and its very non intrusive.

 

[mc4523]

afraid the compustar will not stop your car or truck from being stolen - it will tell you if window breaks or if it tilts onto a truck bed - RAVELCO and/or IGLA will absolutely stop your vehicle from being stolen unless it is loaded onto a truck (in which case the compustar will tell you its time to call the insurance agent to file a claim for your stolen vehicle).

Doesn't the GPS module (X1Max-LTE) that's included in compustar packages have a starter kill function that enables when the alarm is armed? Is that easy enough to defeat to where you wouldn't consider that a function that prevents your car from being stolen?

 

[Exec_TRX]

Doesn't the GPS module (X1Max-LTE) that's included in compustar packages have a starter kill function that enables when the alarm is armed? Is that easy enough to defeat to where you wouldn't consider that a function that prevents your car from being stolen?

Thats actually a feature of the computstar module itself. Starter immobilizer among other things. the GPS module, the max specifically, has a function similar if you do it standalone, without the compustar alarm and wire it using the harness as directed, where if you wire it, itll activate the factory alarm. Havent done this myself, prefer to use the compustar + drone as thats how its indended.

 

[Tex TRX 55]

afraid the compustar will not stop your car or truck from being stolen - it will tell you if window breaks or if it tilts onto a truck bed - RAVELCO and/or IGLA will absolutely stop your vehicle from being stolen unless it is loaded onto a truck (in which case the compustar will tell you its time to call the insurance agent to file a claim for your stolen vehicle).

I also have a kill switch installed. I don't need to pay an additional $1,200 for that.

 

[Tex TRX 55]

Don't they do different things?

Watch this video. He explains the difference between the two.

 

[Tex TRX 55]

wildly different - compustar tells you when your car is being stolen while RAVELCO/IGLA stop it from being stolen.

The Compustar T-13 has a starter kill switch. Watch this video for more information.

 

[Exec_TRX]

Watch this video. He explains the difference between the two.

i like the spikes in ass module. where is that sold. LOL

 

[mc4523]

Watch this video. He explains the difference between the two.

what prevents your compustar fob signal from being stolen (relay attack) and used to disable your alarm system? better encryption, sleep mode?

Guess the same question applies for the Igla too.

Wonder which of those systems has a more secure FOB. You don't see too much public info on this.

 

[goAddy]

Watch this video. He explains the difference between the two.

This video is wrong, it is not possible to move the transmission into Neutral with an IGLA installed on the TRX.

 

[lsav8tor]

So I read this entire article and left feeling a lot of anxiety because I thought there were quite a few bad/inconvenient things regarding the system itself. So I decided to do a counter article (and not trying to start/pick a fight with the OP, I just want to have the other side of the coin here.)

I'll address per paragraph numerically.


1.) IGLA is extremely secure, we agree here. The rest of this, I have an a very different experience. I literally will explain in two options. I can remote (FOB or app) start my truck, touch door handle to unlock it, get in, buckle my seat belt, put in gear, and drive off. The other route is I walk up to truck, touch door handle, it unlocks, get in, hit red button, buckle seat belt, shift into drive and take off. NO DELAY. Essentially, if I gave you the keys to my truck to take it for a spin, you'd never know it had an IGLA on it. The ONLY thing that might trip someone up is, if they start the truck, put it in drive WHILE they are putting on their seatbelt, it will not allow you to move. You have to shift back into park, then back into drive and you are able to go.


2.) 10 second commitment. This is fairly misleading or out of order here, there is no "boot up" time to take off or to be able to do your thing. Turn the truck on and go. The 10 second reference here is if you CHOOSE this method of NOT using the IGLA FOB (more on this later.) The IGLA FOB allows instant access/startup.


3.) If you have a pin to enter (not using other functions like the FOB from IGLA) you have to wait for startup screen, I'll give the OP that. Entering a pin and startup screen maybe 5 seconds? But YOU are choosing that method, not the system. The IGLA system can be much faster. The FOB from IGLA can be used as "bypass" for not giving up a pin for the truck, but you are giving the dealership convenience, and you are the one choosing that method. Remember, you basically have to be touching the truck for the IGLA FOB to be working, and it is also end to end encrypted, therefore can't be stolen like a typical key FOB.


4.) For the last month, it has been 100% reliable, not a single issue, whatsoever. Again, if your FOB failed, you can always revert back to the pin, which does take longer to get going. Secondly, I would ask your installer to re-evaluate what is going on if that is in fact the case. they failed after 3 days. Your results were not typical.


5.) Give the wife the FOB (the second one) that comes with the box. However, this kind of points back to the paragraph 4.


6.) The risk you are willing to accept, seems.... (to quote Spock in a joking way "seems illogical.") To have it removed just creates an atmosphere of a substantially easier truck to steal for a tiny bit of inconvenience, even if the FOBs are not working.


7. (disclaimer) You clearly are not an idiot, your post was well written, had great and valid points. However, I think you got pushed over as a consumer. Everything that you wanted to experience as an IGLA installed truck, I am. My point here is not to brag, but to say, either you received a bad product that has left you in this predicament or the installation was incorrect. My advice, since you've already spent the money on the system, maybe have someone else to install it or try again with updates?

Overall to the community, this AGAIN is not meant to be an inflammatory rebuttal to the OP. It is an OPINION of my experiences that ran contradictory to the OP. I wanted to have other people understand with my experience now cresting a little over a month (which is not end all, be all), I'd say, it's worth every penny.

Respectfully,

goAddy

Thank you for your thorough assessment. I’ve had IGLA for a year. I have the Author app on my iPhone. Have never used the fob. Only use the pin to come out of service mode. Quick start every time.

 

[goAddy]

Thank you for your thorough assessment. I’ve had IGLA for a year. I have the Author app on my iPhone. Have never used the fob. Only use the pin to come out of service mode. Quick start every time.

Yes, I didn't really touch on the app much, but effectively the same as the FOB from IGLA. Thank you for that addition.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

Watch this video. He explains the difference between the two.

It actually does not. This clown was posting on several forums and platforms stating he was installing IGLA for $799 and that he was an authorized installer. He was then taking deposits and peoples money promising the installs but had no access to them and in turn had none. He then contacted a few IGLA dealers and was trying to purchase those units. This video is in retaliation and he has been removed from damn near every group he was in for scamming and trying to scam members.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

what prevents your compustar fob signal from being stolen (relay attack) and used to disable your alarm system? better encryption, sleep mode?

Guess the same question applies for the Igla too.

Wonder which of those systems has a more secure FOB. You don't see too much public info on this.

The compustar remote is not the same as an oem fob that is constantly sending and receiving.

 

[Redeyecrazy]

The Compustar T-13 has a starter kill switch. Watch this video for more information.

NOPE it doesn't - I'm quite educated on Compustar and IGLA and RAVELCO and my statement is correct

 

[Creamsicle]

Thank you for your thorough assessment. I’ve had IGLA for a year. I have the Author app on my iPhone. Have never used the fob. Only use the pin to come out of service mode. Quick start every time.

Prepare to be told the app doesn’t work and is a huge security risk.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

NOPE it doesn't - I'm quite educated on Compustar and IGLA and RAVELCO and my statement is correct

It does if installed without IGLA but not like he is saying, it just relay drops the start circuit until unarmed. There is a new mopar push to start relay setup that kills tge pts button until unarmed and then if you don’t start it in time it times out the pts again.