I had IGLA for 5 Days. What you should know before installing.

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I'm in Houston Texas. It's finding a dealer that has completed the install on GMC 2500 diesel trucks. Very limited number of installers in this area.

Contact Jesh Jesty at Sound Evolution in Houston. He has done 1500 and 2500’s up to 2024.

 

[NINJA]

IGLA is a fantastic alarm system that is very secure. It also fundamentally alters the way you start your truck. You should know the trade-offs before deciding to opt for it.

I had IGLA installed for 4 days before I decided I didn't really like it. Here's the problem: I make lots of small trips to different sites in my truck. It's my DD. I probably start it, on average, 6 times a day. Sometimes up to 10. That's just life and I enjoy the hell out of driving the TRX. When I start my truck I jump in, press the red button, buckle my seatbelt, and go. IGLA kills that ability. Now it's not that big a hassle either. It's about a 10 second commitment at every startup. But imagine running through your day at full speed and then someone puts the brakes on for an all stop for 10 seconds. It's not life-changing, but it's annoying. And it's due to something you decided to install.

So when you start your truck with IGLA you first have to wait for the gauges to "sweep" before you enter your PIN. Then enter your PIN. Then you you get the double hazard light blink that it was accepted, and now you're ready to go. Again, approximately 10 seconds in my seat of the pants estimation. Here's the kicker: if you don't wait long enough for the gauges to fully sweep, and you enter your PIN too early, then the truck will start, but it will throw an error on the dash. Mine would say "service active damping system. offroad maneuvers limited." I don't like this at all. I don't like electronic error messages from my truck. That means I need to fix something. But these were self-imposed from an alarm system I decided to install, which felt terrible. So I decided to use the fob that comes with IGLA. It is supposed to completely bypass the security system when it's inside the truck. When using remote start, this was great. I remote start from 30 seconds out, jump in the truck, and by the time I've buckled up and put it in drive, the fob and IGLA had done their thing. This seemed perfect! It was also my solution for taking the TRX in for service. I don't know about you guys, but I am not confident in RAM service centers to be able to use a PIN to start my truck, even after I explain it and train the service manager. It just isn't going to get disseminated to the workers and getting my truck serviced will be difficult. So I was hot on using the fobs, even though they reduce the security posture...until the fobs stopped working on day 3. Both of them. With new batteries installed in them.

So if the fobs aren't 100% reliable then I can't trust them at all. So the fobs are out for me. You can setup your smart phone to authenticate. That sounded promising. But I'm still out of luck regarding taking it in for service.

Also, my wife needs to be able to drive the truck from time to time. I trained her on the PIN entry. But driving it once every 6 weeks, how feasible is it for her to remember the timing required, wait for the gauges to sweep, and not get error messages? And are the error messages real errors where something isn't working correctly? Or are they just electronic errors from the mis-timed communication? I don't know. And I don't want to have to figure it out.

So I had IGLA removed. When I did my part it worked perfectly. And I am sure it is very secure. I just do not want that level of security at the expense of daily convenience. That's my personal risk/convenience posture, and I'm OK with it. I did not realize any of this before opting for IGLA. So I wanted everyone here to be in the know. You may think the IGLA intrusion is tiny, and doesn't bother you at all, and you wouldn't drive your TRX without it. To you I say, rock on, brother. I'm glad it works for you and gives you the peace of mind you want. For me, I just didn't enjoy it. And I have this truck so I can enjoy it.

Disclaimer: I know the prevailing attitude here on this forum. If you want to think me an idiot for not liking IGLA and wishing to accept the risk of theft rather than experience the mild inconvenience of IGLA, I'm fine with that. I'm 40-something years old. I know myself, and I know I am happier using my truck without it. If my truck is stolen then I have a generous insurance policy on it. And I won't be able to immediately get into another TRX. I'll have to drive something normal for a few months. I'm OK with all of that. So I'm eyes wide open here. My truck is vulnerable to theft. I get it. I'm making the fully informed decision that I would rather use the truck quickly without intervention at every startup and risk theft rather than be inconvenienced every startup.

- Great Summation!
- I personaly appreciated it.
- I am 'trying' to make a similar decision ............ Your comments were a great resource.
- Thank You!

 

[NINJA]

BTW: I currently utilize a Faraday 'Pouch', and place all of the other car keys in a Faraday 'Box' when they are not in use.

 

[427Aggie]

BTW: I currently utilize a Faraday 'Pouch', and place all of the other car keys in a Faraday 'Box' when they are not in use.

While those help thats not going to matter. They don't scan your key. They jump in program a new one and are gone in 2 minutes. The faraday won't keep it safe..Just FYI. I have IGLA on 2 cars now and love it. I like being able to keep remote start and use my phone. Thats my preference.

 

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While those help thats not going to matter. They don't scan your key. They jump in program a new one and are gone in 2 minutes. The faraday won't keep it safe..Just FYI. I have IGLA on 2 cars now and love it. I like being able to keep remote start and use my phone. Thats my preference.

IF they did the relay/clone attack to steal them then it would help up to the point that you need to open it and start it. Then its game over.

 

[wlarsen76]

IGLA is a fantastic alarm system that is very secure. It also fundamentally alters the way you start your truck. You should know the trade-offs before deciding to opt for it.

I had IGLA installed for 4 days before I decided I didn't really like it. Here's the problem: I make lots of small trips to different sites in my truck. It's my DD. I probably start it, on average, 6 times a day. Sometimes up to 10. That's just life and I enjoy the hell out of driving the TRX. When I start my truck I jump in, press the red button, buckle my seatbelt, and go. IGLA kills that ability. Now it's not that big a hassle either. It's about a 10 second commitment at every startup. But imagine running through your day at full speed and then someone puts the brakes on for an all stop for 10 seconds. It's not life-changing, but it's annoying. And it's due to something you decided to install.

So when you start your truck with IGLA you first have to wait for the gauges to "sweep" before you enter your PIN. Then enter your PIN. Then you you get the double hazard light blink that it was accepted, and now you're ready to go. Again, approximately 10 seconds in my seat of the pants estimation. Here's the kicker: if you don't wait long enough for the gauges to fully sweep, and you enter your PIN too early, then the truck will start, but it will throw an error on the dash. Mine would say "service active damping system. offroad maneuvers limited." I don't like this at all. I don't like electronic error messages from my truck. That means I need to fix something. But these were self-imposed from an alarm system I decided to install, which felt terrible. So I decided to use the fob that comes with IGLA. It is supposed to completely bypass the security system when it's inside the truck. When using remote start, this was great. I remote start from 30 seconds out, jump in the truck, and by the time I've buckled up and put it in drive, the fob and IGLA had done their thing. This seemed perfect! It was also my solution for taking the TRX in for service. I don't know about you guys, but I am not confident in RAM service centers to be able to use a PIN to start my truck, even after I explain it and train the service manager. It just isn't going to get disseminated to the workers and getting my truck serviced will be difficult. So I was hot on using the fobs, even though they reduce the security posture...until the fobs stopped working on day 3. Both of them. With new batteries installed in them.

So if the fobs aren't 100% reliable then I can't trust them at all. So the fobs are out for me. You can setup your smart phone to authenticate. That sounded promising. But I'm still out of luck regarding taking it in for service.

Also, my wife needs to be able to drive the truck from time to time. I trained her on the PIN entry. But driving it once every 6 weeks, how feasible is it for her to remember the timing required, wait for the gauges to sweep, and not get error messages? And are the error messages real errors where something isn't working correctly? Or are they just electronic errors from the mis-timed communication? I don't know. And I don't want to have to figure it out.

So I had IGLA removed. When I did my part it worked perfectly. And I am sure it is very secure. I just do not want that level of security at the expense of daily convenience. That's my personal risk/convenience posture, and I'm OK with it. I did not realize any of this before opting for IGLA. So I wanted everyone here to be in the know. You may think the IGLA intrusion is tiny, and doesn't bother you at all, and you wouldn't drive your TRX without it. To you I say, rock on, brother. I'm glad it works for you and gives you the peace of mind you want. For me, I just didn't enjoy it. And I have this truck so I can enjoy it.

Disclaimer: I know the prevailing attitude here on this forum. If you want to think me an idiot for not liking IGLA and wishing to accept the risk of theft rather than experience the mild inconvenience of IGLA, I'm fine with that. I'm 40-something years old. I know myself, and I know I am happier using my truck without it. If my truck is stolen then I have a generous insurance policy on it. And I won't be able to immediately get into another TRX. I'll have to drive something normal for a few months. I'm OK with all of that. So I'm eyes wide open here. My truck is vulnerable to theft. I get it. I'm making the fully informed decision that I would rather use the truck quickly without intervention at every startup and risk theft rather than be inconvenienced every startup.

@DIN0ZR
I actually applaud this viewpoint thank you for posting it. People may not agree with it, but you know they say.... "Opinions are like *@ssholes..."
Engineers cannot produce products that are "100% secure", Nor can they produce products that are "100% convenient". It's a spectrum, and moving in one direction generally takes away from the other.
Security needs to be balanced with convenience, otherwise folks will advertently or inadvertently bypass security. It's human nature. People crave convenience and predictability. The things that make us secure tend to take away from that.
The best security is the security that protects us even if we don't know it's there.
It's viewpoints like this that push Security Architects and Engineers to do better, think better, and design better... with people in mind.
Anyway, just my two thoughts. Thanks again!

 

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@DIN0ZR
I actually applaud this viewpoint thank you for posting it. People may not agree with it, but you know they say.... "Opinions are like *@ssholes..."
Engineers cannot produce products that are "100% secure", Nor can they produce products that are "100% convenient". It's a spectrum, and moving in one direction generally takes away from the other.
Security needs to be balanced with convenience, otherwise folks will advertently or inadvertently bypass security. It's human nature. People crave convenience and predictability. The things that make us secure tend to take away from that.
The best security is the security that protects us even if we don't know it's there.
It's viewpoints like this that push Security Architects and Engineers to do better, think better, and design better... with people in mind.
Anyway, just my two thoughts. Thanks again!

He had outdated bluetooth firmware and decided to remove instead of update. Its his vehicle so not concerned a bit. He can do as he wishes. IGLA is a pin code system and once muscle
Memory kicks in you don’t even know your doing it. With the new bluetooth firmware update there have been no issues with the fobs though and his feedback is what helps fix issues they don’t see

 

[IdahoKTM]

Why do people quote posts, like above, but then they don't post a response?

Edit: damn it, he deleted his post.

 

[Phoinix]

It sounds like you were looking for a reaon to not like the IGLA system. I do appreciate the challenge you were having to start your truck 10 times a day though, I think that would aggrivate anyone, myself included .
This is why I rely on the micro mini key fob, to by pass using the pin process. I keep it on my person and dont even know it's there. I have zero delay in starting the truck, while maintaing the best anti-theft device on the planet.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

It sounds like you were looking for a reaon to not like the IGLA system. I do appreciate the challenge you were having to start your truck 10 times a day though, I think that would aggrivate anyone, myself included .
This is why I rely on the micro mini key fob, to by pass using the pin process. I keep it on my person and dont even know it's there. I have zero delay in starting the truck, while maintaing the best anti-theft device on the planet.

You have the updated Bluetooth firmware so it will not glitch periodically. He didn’t want to fix the issue with a simple 30 second update

 

[goAddy]

He had outdated bluetooth firmware and decided to remove instead of update. Its his vehicle so not concerned a bit. He can do as he wishes. IGLA is a pin code system and once muscle
Memory kicks in you don’t even know your doing it. With the new bluetooth firmware update there have been no issues with the fobs though and his feedback is what helps fix issues they don’t see

I have had mine in since April 2023, zero issues.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

I have had mine in since April 2023, zero issues.

As do 90% of others. The rest are user error or the Bluetooth needs updated

 

[Najeem]

Seems like OP has an excuse for everything. IGLA man gave u solutions but raising ur hand and using ur fingers was too much work and time for OP lol

 

[bluewolf67]

Question - If you get the IGLA + Compustar combo, do you need to carry all three remotes? OEM, IGLA fob and Compustar remote?

 

[Air’d outSRT]

Question - If you get the IGLA + Compustar combo, do you need to carry all three remotes? OEM, IGLA fob and Compustar remote?

No, you can carry 0 if you want (not recommended because if the drone network is down or no cell service you will be locked out.)

 

[bluewolf67]

No, you can carry 0 if you want (not recommended because if the drone network is down or no cell service you will be locked out.)

that is odd because the installer at the Golden CO location said if I don't get the Key locker option I would have to carry around all three remotes. And if that is the case, I'd forego the Compustar. Don't want to have to carry around 2 huge remotes.

 

[AmosMoses]

that is odd because the installer at the Golden CO location said if I don't get the Key locker option I would have to carry around all three remotes. And if that is the case, I'd forego the Compustar. Don't want to have to carry around 2 huge remotes.

You can do a pin for the IGLA and never use the remote. That's what I do.

 

[stubs_78]

that is odd because the installer at the Golden CO location said if I don't get the Key locker option I would have to carry around all three remotes. And if that is the case, I'd forego the Compustar. Don't want to have to carry around 2 huge remotes.

If you don't get the Key Locker you can just leave the OEM fob in the glove box/center console all the time. You should really never carry around the IGLA fob except for "special" situations. Always use the IGLA pin. If you do all that, this leaves you only carrying around the Compustar fob. But like what was mentioned above, you can carry around 0 if you want to risk it. The Drone app has saved my bacon before when the Compustar fob ran out of battery power while I was out and about. I was able to start up the truck with my cell phone. It works pretty slick that way but I would not trust that for every day driving but it is a great backup for when you forget to charge the Compustar fob.

 

[Fifty]

I carry the oem remote and the compustar remote.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

that is odd because the installer at the Golden CO location said if I don't get the Key locker option I would have to carry around all three remotes. And if that is the case, I'd forego the Compustar. Don't want to have to carry around 2 huge remotes.

IF you have a full compustar AND IGLA in a trx then you can carry oem fob and use the drone app (annoying and need service 100% of the time) oem fob and compustar or all 3. You can “technically” carry just compustar and leave the oem fob in the vehicle BUT if IGLA fails for some reason then they have the means to start the vehicle. Having a keylocker is a better option. You do not need to carry an IGLA fob, pincode only is highly recommended