Ram TRX returns Q1 2026

No emissions laws have been rollback yet and it'll be interesting to see if they still get fined by CARB states even if Trump EPA declines to charge them.
One of the best things that could ever happen to this country would be removing the EPA exemption from CARB, probably one of the biggest potential boosts to the national economy as well.
 
You keep believing that!
Walk me through this. This is like saying a home foreclosure for someone that can't pay their mortgage is a loss for the original builder. What am I missing?
 
Walk me through this. This is like saying a home foreclosure for someone that can't pay their mortgage is a loss for the original builder. What am I missing?
In a certain scenario where the manufacturer is also the debt collector (ford credit) I could see the ripple effect.
But in any other banks scenario they simply collect the debt and the manufacturer isn’t involved.

Looking at historical numbers over the last 30 years repo rates have generally stayed in the same area

2.2% 1995
2.6% 2005
2.1% 2015
1.5%2020
2.3% 2023


Edit: Just because the vehicle is repossessed also doesn’t mean the borrower is off the hook. Debt collector can continue to collect until it is satisfied at 100%. They can use the proceeds from auction sale to bring down your balance owed then come at you for the rest. Granted if you file for bankruptcy they can no longer come at you.
 
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Walk me through this. This is like saying a home foreclosure for someone that can't pay their mortgage is a loss for the original builder. What am I missing?
It is when they are the bank to. Asset management firms. Not all cases but in most these days they are all the same people. We usto call it monopoly when someone owned all parts. When they can manipulate the prices from the raw resources to the end product. They keep inflating the prices of everything. The manufacturer the bank where you got the predatory loan the dealership the insurance company the place where you get your gas your favorite place to eat ect. all owned by the same entity. That's what you are missing if they can't collect from someone they raise the price on the rest of us to cover it. If they make bad financial decisions and loose money we'll then they will just get it back from everyone else how you might ask rasing prices adjusting everyone's rates so they come out on top. If I built your home and gave you the loan do I not loose when you don't pay.
 
Demon 170 Grand Wagoneer would be funny. It would be an oddball that we would look back on in 20 years and laugh that it was a thing.
they have the Cadillac Escalade-V ...I hear for 2025 it supposed to be up to 680HP. I would buy a Demon powered Wagoneer....but I guess there would not be enough demand...
 
It is when they are the bank to. Asset management firms. Not all cases but in most these days they are all the same people. We usto call it monopoly when someone owned all parts. When they can manipulate the prices from the raw resources to the end product. They keep inflating the prices of everything. The manufacturer the bank where you got the predatory loan the dealership the insurance company the place where you get your gas your favorite place to eat ect. all owned by the same entity. That's what you are missing if they can't collect from someone they raise the price on the rest of us to cover it. If they make bad financial decisions and loose money we'll then they will just get it back from everyone else how you might ask rasing prices adjusting everyone's rates so they come out on top. If I built your home and gave you the loan do I not loose when you don't pay.
Interesting. I might be an outlier, but I've never financed through the OEMs finance arm and didn't even know Stellantis had one. Still, I don't think the finance arm call the mfg. division and says "raise your prices - people aren't making their car payments". What happens in reality is people that suck at making prudent loan decisions get fired and/or lenders raise interest rates on highly default risk vehicles/buyers.
 
Interesting. I might be an outlier, but I've never financed through the OEMs finance arm and didn't even know Stellantis had one. Still, I don't think the finance arm call the mfg. division and says "raise your prices - people aren't making their car payments". What happens in reality is people that suck at making prudent loan decisions get fired and/or lenders raise interest rates on highly default risk vehicles/buyers.

 
I got ahold of a document that lists out the next 3 years product releases from the 392 Wrangler to of course our beloved Ram TRX. If you look at the snippet below, based on the wording, I believe they'll put the same 6.2L Supercharged Hemi it. Not to say there won't be a Redeye option later but for now things are moving so fast, they just need to get their halo truck back in the market.

Based on the dealer email that leaked a couple months ago, the TRX was hinted to come back with more power. One option I believe they'll do is use the DC Hellcat Stage 1 kit with would bump the HP up to 757 (More than likely 752 because of the intake hp loss). That would give the TRX more power and beat out the Raptor R's 720hp

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Any impressions about bringing back the power broker/concept for ordering at invoice to forum/previous TRX owners to rebuild customer base/market circa 2022? Timmy HAS TO rebuild the brand/confidence fast and have no doubt he will price out 90% of the existing install base at 6.2 relaunch.

I would return back into a TRX 6.2 in seconds if the level2 price was <$100k Would love to wipe that Ford Raptor R off the planet! Albeit hoping the street ride quality suspension can be Raptor R like... ;)
 
Albeit hoping the street ride quality suspension can be Raptor R like... ;)
that’s backwards from what most have stated.
Majority I have seen state the trx is better street manners and the Raptor at off road.

Curious what your experience has been.
 
Any impressions about bringing back the power broker/concept for ordering at invoice to forum/previous TRX owners to rebuild customer base/market circa 2022? Timmy HAS TO rebuild the brand/confidence fast and have no doubt he will price out 90% of the existing install base at 6.2 relaunch.

I would return back into a TRX 6.2 in seconds if the level2 price was <$100k Would love to wipe that Ford Raptor R off the planet! Albeit hoping the street ride quality suspension can be Raptor R like... ;)
No way it comes back under $100K for a level 2. $115,000 minimum maybe more than that.
 
No way it comes back under $100K for a level 2. $115,000 minimum maybe more than that.
That's pissing into the wind and calling it rain. All current auto price trajectories are unsustainable and need downward correction of at least 10-15% (and probably closer to 25%) across the board especially in the light truck category. Take a look at what current incentives are needed to sell a vehicle right now, it's a bloodbath in the dealer industry.
 
That's pissing into the wind and calling it rain. All current auto price trajectories are unsustainable and need downward correction of at least 10-15% (and probably closer to 25%) across the board especially in the light truck category. Take a look at what current incentives are needed to sell a vehicle right now, it's a bloodbath in the dealer industry.
While you are a wordsmith, we are going into a currency reset where the dollar will drop against everything we want/need.
 
While you are a wordsmith, we are going into a currency reset where the dollar will drop against everything we want/need.
Yeah looking shit, glad I bought my stuff last round of currency crashing.
 
That's pissing into the wind and calling it rain. All current auto price trajectories are unsustainable and need downward correction of at least 10-15% (and probably closer to 25%) across the board especially in the light truck category. Take a look at what current incentives are needed to sell a vehicle right now, it's a bloodbath in the dealer industry.
This is what we need but I fear not what we will get killing greed is tough!
 
My fear is the MSRP. I’ll type this out and I’m sure a financial guru will say I’m an idiot but if the MSRP is like 95k-105k I can swallow my pride and say okay, put 20k down or so and finance the rest. Pay it off in two years or so, be done. The 125k bullsh*t I just can’t do man. Even if you put 45k down, you still finance 80k. That’s just insanity to me. I’d rather just sell my ‘22 and get a low mileage ‘24. These trucks are incredible man, I’ve had 3 but this 150k pick up chaos has to end at some point. Now if you’ll excuse me I need to get back to barking at clouds.

All of what you said is spot on. Also don't forget to add on whatever the dealer is going to do to you when you try to trade up also.

Personally I don't understand the loyalty that many are showing to FCA. It's pretty insulting that the Challenger and Charger languished as long as they did and are still getting milked for every last drop. Then there are all of the shenanigans with their "Editions". It's all bullshit and not worth anything. I would much rather the brand hire people to engineer better vehicles than Madison Ave. clowns to move more units with clever terms.

As has always been the case. If your product is actually good. You don't need to advertise or put lip stick on it.
 
Personally I don't understand the loyalty that many are showing to FCA.
I wouldn't say it's necessarily loyalty to Stellantis, it's just that the TRX is the BFT on the market... and Ford can suck my balls before I buy any Raptor.
 
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