INEXPENSIVE 6 Piston Brake Upgrade?

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

I think it you baby tap the pedal( press to far and something can get out of whack)you can probably get around it doing anything stupid with the ABS, With that battery disconnected. But I have absolutely no useful information on The topic .

There's gotta be a dedicated fuse for ABS. Maybe i'll pull that before doing the install

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

@Nick797 any special info on pad bed-in procedure once we get em installed? Just checked the RC instructs again and not seeing anything

 

[Psifer]

There's gotta be a dedicated fuse for ABS. Maybe i'll pull that before doing the install

You're complicating such an easy job. Just put the truck in brake service mode so you don't screw up the e-brake then swap the brakes and fluid. If you can color between the lines then you should be capable of swapping brakes. There is nothing overly sophisticated about our system that requires any unconventional steps during the change.

Since this seems like your first time doing brakes, make sure you pump your brakes to compress your pistons before putting the wheels back on the ground. Otherwise, you may not get any pad bite on the first couple pedal presses in which it could result in injury or death.

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

You're complicating such an easy job. Just put the truck in brake service mode so you don't screw up the e-brake then swap the brakes and fluid. If you can color between the lines then you should be capable of swapping brakes. There is nothing overly sophisticated about our system that requires any unconventional steps during the change.

Since this seems like your first time doing brakes, make sure you pump your brakes to compress your pistons before putting the wheels back on the ground. Otherwise, you may not get any pad bite on the first couple pedal presses in which it could result in injury or death.

Thanks man but it's not my 1st time doing brakes. I've got Powerstops on it now. Done brakes on all my offroad vehicles for years. I've just never messed with ABS before and i do not have something to put the truck in "brake service mode". Never even heard of that until your post. Maybe a little more help and a little less sass there chief.

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

Doesnt sound like we need to touch the ABS system in any way as long as we dont let the master cylinder run dry. If air enters via the master, then a proper ABS bleed is required (in addition to a regular bleed). I dont plan to let it run dry so I'm not going to touch the ABS fuse/etc.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Nick797]

@Nick797 any special info on pad bed-in procedure once we get em installed? Just checked the RC instructs again and not seeing anything

They are about as helpful as a rock when i started asking anything tech wise.

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

They are about as helpful as a rock when i started asking anything tech wise.

Standard bed-in it is then lolol

 

[Psifer]

Thanks man but it's not my 1st time doing brakes. I've got Powerstops on it now. Done brakes on all my offroad vehicles for years. I've just never messed with ABS before and i do not have something to put the truck in "brake service mode". Never even heard of that until your post. Maybe a little more help and a little less sass there chief.

I highly suggest you download a copy of the TRX and DT 1500 manuals of the same model year for future reference. The TRX manual only mentions TRX-specific subjects and does not cover everything. They can answer a fair number of the questions you ask. For example, and in regard to your previous question, the TRX manual suggests the use of DOT 4 for "extended use".

The DT 1500 manual covers the brake service mode. It's readily accessible in your UConnect settings, no tools required. Unless you're on UC5 and have some bugged software not exposing it. Any shop could've installed those Powerstops, not calling you a liar, but having them on your truck doesn't imply you specifically installed them. And if you did do them yourself, then I would assume you would know of the brake service mode. You also previously stated you never worked with ABS before. Considering it has been commonly used since the 90s, I was assuming you never changed your brakes before. I did not intend for my assumption to be offensive.

 

[Dubstep Shep]

Most cars you don't have to do anything special with the ABS, that tech has been around for a while. The brake service mode just retracts the electric parking brake, which you can do manually anyway.

The reasons you would bleed the ABS is if you got air in it, you have really old nasty fluid, you absolutely have to get 100% of your fluid swapped, or it's easier. For me, my vette being a race car, I wanted 100% of the fluid out. I continued doing it that way because once I had the tech to do it, it was actually easier.

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

I highly suggest you download a copy of the TRX and DT 1500 manuals of the same model year for future reference. The TRX manual only mentions TRX-specific subjects and does not cover everything. They can answer a fair number of the questions you ask. For example, and in regard to your previous question, the TRX manual suggests the use of DOT 4 for "extended use".

The DT 1500 manual covers the brake service mode. It's readily accessible in your UConnect settings, no tools required. Unless you're on UC5 and have some bugged software not exposing it. Any shop could've installed those Powerstops, not calling you a liar, but having them on your truck doesn't imply you specifically installed them. And if you did do them yourself, then I would assume you would know of the brake service mode. You also previously stated you never worked with ABS before. Considering it has been commonly used since the 90s, I was assuming you never changed your brakes before. I did not intend for my assumption to be offensive.

I have both manuals downloaded and i've been through them but it's been a few years. Good to know the TRX manual suggests Dot4. I'll have to check on the brake mode in Uconnect as I've also been through all those settings and dont recall seeing that but again, it's been years and i certainly wasn't looking to do a brake job on a new vehicle at the time. I'm well aware that ABS has been around since then but this is the 1st time i've heard anyone mention having to mess with it prior to or during the bleed. Perhaps i've just been lucky on past vehicles that an old school bleed worked fine. Or perhaps i was dreaming of doing the brakes and never really did them

And all this happened in my driveway while I was dreaming

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

I highly suggest you download a copy of the TRX and DT 1500 manuals of the same model year for future reference. The TRX manual only mentions TRX-specific subjects and does not cover everything. They can answer a fair number of the questions you ask. For example, and in regard to your previous question, the TRX manual suggests the use of DOT 4 for "extended use".

The DT 1500 manual covers the brake service mode. It's readily accessible in your UConnect settings, no tools required. Unless you're on UC5 and have some bugged software not exposing it. Any shop could've installed those Powerstops, not calling you a liar, but having them on your truck doesn't imply you specifically installed them. And if you did do them yourself, then I would assume you would know of the brake service mode. You also previously stated you never worked with ABS before. Considering it has been commonly used since the 90s, I was assuming you never changed your brakes before. I did not intend for my assumption to be offensive.

EDIT: I found the installers. You were right - i didnt do my brakes!

 

[Psifer]

I figured if you did, then there would definitely be a video uploaded on YouTube. I was focusing on the fact that the mere existence of aftermarket brakes on a vehicle does not automatically mean the owner of the vehicle was the installer. Disregarding that, I didn't even know you had Powerstops to even conclude that you installed brakes before. The only data point I had to work with was your own statement that you never worked with ABS before. My apologies for so easily offending you.

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

I figured if you did, then there would definitely be a video uploaded on YouTube. I was focusing on the fact that the mere existence of aftermarket brakes on a vehicle does not automatically mean the owner of the vehicle was the installer. Disregarding that, I didn't even know you had Powerstops to even conclude that you installed brakes before. The only data point I had to work with was your own statement that you never worked with ABS before. My apologies for so easily offending you.

No worries man all good

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

THANKS AGAIN @Nick797 Hoping to get em done tmrw or this wknd!

 

[IdahoKTM]

THANKS AGAIN @Nick797 Hoping to get em done tmrw or this wknd!

View attachment 151369

How many people are going to think you're just running RC's caliper covers?

 

[Nick797]

How many people are going to think you're just running RC's caliper covers?

View attachment 151373

dude i posted these in the 5th gen group and people argued with me that they were covers! Haha

 

[Nick797]

THANKS AGAIN @Nick797 Hoping to get em done tmrw or this wknd!

View attachment 151369

do a slam dunk with it!!!!

 

[thewrx]

The 3/8” clearance probably means the caliper flexes, and not in the good way, which is usually what lower end, cast or non-monoblock calipers do. Also, does the piston area match the MC optimal size, then you have materials and hardware quality,

However, given the the price point it seems reasonable for what you get, especially with a 2-piece rotor. (assuming you can get replacement rotor disc’s and pads at reasonable price, common part #’s, and possibly multiple temp range options)

 

[KevinInTexas]

So will these work with factory 18" wheels?

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

How many people are going to think you're just running RC's caliper covers?

View attachment 151373

only had the $$ to buy caliper covers for the fronts