First shots 2025 TRX test mule

[SneekEm]

Why do they put the swirly white and black wrap over certain parts?

 

[Eighty]

Why do they put the swirly white and black wrap over certain parts?

It's camouflage. Keeps people from being able to distinctly identify test mules.

 

[DMR]

They could make the new 2025 TRX in all gold, if it has the inline 6 twin turbo engine, which it does, I am out. My pops had the tundra v6 tt for a year and just traded it in on a ram 5.7 e torque because he hated the v6 tt engine. It had tq don’t get me wrong but we made fun of him enough about the little hair dryers screaming away while towing, he had to sell it. Tundra really fucked that up and the v8 tundra (he had three of those) was so reliable. I have a feeling Ram will be in the same boat with the hurricane engine, it’s a shame. Let’s be glad we have the real trx with the 6.2.

 

[KnightMare]

I feel for Tim. Decades of successfully marketing the HEMI brand and then these hedge funds that own the world make him ditch it for sissy motors and EVs.

I would say the opposite, as CEO of Dodge for a decade, his only success was the 6.2L Hemi and tricking people in buying the SRT 392 by rebranding the car Scat Pack. If the 6.2 Hemi never existed, every other project he touched was a failure. It's tragic the only brand new Dodge vehicle brought to production was the Hornet under his tenure, everything else was either a remix or removal

 

[bigdaddyspank]

SO, I will say this, when the Raptor went from its 6.2, Boss V-8 to its Ecoboost V-6, everything was better, mileage, power, torque but for the sound...So with RAM moving toward the Twin Turbo six Hurricane, all is the same for the Hurricane vs the two Hemi's, but for the sound...

So, I will be the first to predict that they have something else up their sleeve as they always do. I will bet that the TRX Hurricane will be something more that all the "insiders and speculators" are guessing at. They had it wrong with the 1 year Durango, now 3 years; the Demon 170, as all were calling it the Ghoul or Goblin at 850 HP; the 1 year Jailbreaks which are now all Hellcats; 2023 being the final year for the 6.2 TRX, which is now 2024 model year....and so on....You know who you are, lol....

Gonna be more than everybody is predicting......as in the words of Butter, Just Saying....and I want credit when it comes due...

 

[Eighty]

SO, I will say this, when the Raptor went from its 6.2, Boss V-8 to its Ecoboost V-6, everything was better, mileage, power, torque but for the sound...So with RAM moving toward the Twin Turbo six Hurricane, all is the same for the Hurricane vs the two Hemi's, but for the sound...

So, I will be the first to predict that they have something else up their sleeve as they always do. I will bet that the TRX Hurricane will be something more that all the "insiders and speculators" are guessing at. They had it wrong with the 1 year Durango, now 3 years; the Demon 170, as all were calling it the Ghoul or Goblin at 850 HP; the 1 year Jailbreaks which are now all Hellcats; 2023 being the final year for the 6.2 TRX, which is now 2024 model year....and so on....You know who you are, lol....

Gonna be more than everybody is predicting......as in the words of Butter, Just Saying....and I want credit when it comes due...

All sounds good, except for that little thing we call facts. They've already built test vehicles for the 2025 TRX, and it's confirmed to be the Hurricane HO engine. Oops.

 

[bigdaddyspank]

All sounds good, except for that little thing we call facts. They've already built test vehicles for the 2025 TRX, and it's confirmed to be the Hurricane HO engine. Oops.

Eighty, first off, your information has always been pretty factual. on point, and you bring an "A" game to this forum. Thank You!

HOWEVER, I'm just saying that I understand that there is Hurricane Six in the 2025 TRX, but does anyone REALLY know the output for the TRX? I don't remember seeing any info as to the numbers FOR the 2025 TRX, just the generic numbers for the Hurricane itself, and the fact that the Mules have the Hurricane in them. No performance figures posted anywhere for the TRX.

Straight from Stellantis' News outlet:

"Stellantis promises, will offer "more than 400 horsepower and more than 450 lb-ft of torque," at a max of 5,800 rpm. The high output variant will offer "more than 500 HP and more than 475 lb-ft of torque" at up to 6,100 rpm in their initial configurations".

I'm looking at the "more than" and "initial configuration" part. Could there be "more than" is all I'm saying...also, Koval said to TFL Truck before he got canned, "what about electrification?" at one of the Car Shows this year.

So maybe there is a small electric motor on the engine like the past V-8's that provide a bump in Torque? A tune that's beyond an "initial configuration"?

Lastly, a Test Mule is exactly that......is not a Final Production model and are destroyed after tests are completed, they are not sold.

IDK...NOBODY does right now... But Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins the races...

Right now, Ford is saying their 2024 Raptor R will be "more than" 700 HP.....But, nobody really knows as of yet, only speculations. RAM/Dodge are good about surprises and keeping secrets and also putting out fake news to throw people off.

All I'm saying is, can a brother get his Cred if it's "More Than"...lol If not, then no harm right?

BOOM!

 

[DanZman]

Eighty, first off, your information has always been pretty factual. on point, and you bring an "A" game to this forum. Thank You!

HOWEVER, I'm just saying that I understand that there is Hurricane Six in the 2025 TRX, but does anyone REALLY know the output for the TRX? I don't remember seeing any info as to the numbers FOR the 2025 TRX, just the generic numbers for the Hurricane itself, and the fact that the Mules have the Hurricane in them. No performance figures posted anywhere for the TRX.

Straight from Stellantis' News outlet:

"Stellantis promises, will offer "more than 400 horsepower and more than 450 lb-ft of torque," at a max of 5,800 rpm. The high output variant will offer "more than 500 HP and more than 475 lb-ft of torque" at up to 6,100 rpm in their initial configurations".

I'm looking at the "more than" and "initial configuration" part. Could there be "more than" is all I'm saying...also, Koval said before he got canned to TFL Truck; "what about electrification?" at one of the Car Shows this year.

So maybe there is a small electric motor on the engine like the past V-8's that provide a bump in Torque? A tune that's beyond an "initial configuration"?

IDK...NOBODY does right now... But Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins the races...

Right now, Ford is saying their 2024 Raptor R will be "more than" 700 HP.....But, nobody really knows as of yet, only speculations. RAM/Dodge are good about surprises and keeping secrets and also putting out fake news to throw people off.

All I'm saying is, can a brother get his Cred if it's "More Than"...lol If not, then no harm right?

I also believe that there could be a yet unannounced super high output version. There is no reason that a modern I6 can’t make huge power.

 

[Moparornocar]

Biggest problem is there's not enough of the swirly stuff in the world to cover up the fart can 6 banger sound.

 

[UnloosedChewtoy]

I would say the opposite, as CEO of Dodge for a decade, his only success was the 6.2L Hemi and tricking people in buying the SRT 392 by rebranding the car Scat Pack. If the 6.2 Hemi never existed, every other project he touched was a failure. It's tragic the only brand new Dodge vehicle brought to production was the Hornet under his tenure, everything else was either a remix or removal

And he cheated a bit with the Hornet, being its an Alfa Romeo with different skin.

 

[KnightMare]

Eighty, first off, your information has always been pretty factual. on point, and you bring an "A" game to this forum. Thank You!

HOWEVER, I'm just saying that I understand that there is Hurricane Six in the 2025 TRX, but does anyone REALLY know the output for the TRX? I don't remember seeing any info as to the numbers FOR the 2025 TRX, just the generic numbers for the Hurricane itself, and the fact that the Mules have the Hurricane in them. No performance figures posted anywhere for the TRX.

Straight from Stellantis' News outlet:

"Stellantis promises, will offer "more than 400 horsepower and more than 450 lb-ft of torque," at a max of 5,800 rpm. The high output variant will offer "more than 500 HP and more than 475 lb-ft of torque" at up to 6,100 rpm in their initial configurations".

I'm looking at the "more than" and "initial configuration" part. Could there be "more than" is all I'm saying...also, Koval said to TFL Truck before he got canned, "what about electrification?" at one of the Car Shows this year.

So maybe there is a small electric motor on the engine like the past V-8's that provide a bump in Torque? A tune that's beyond an "initial configuration"?

Lastly, a Test Mule is exactly that......is not a Final Production model and are destroyed after tests are completed, they are not sold.

IDK...NOBODY does right now... But Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins the races...

Right now, Ford is saying their 2024 Raptor R will be "more than" 700 HP.....But, nobody really knows as of yet, only speculations. RAM/Dodge are good about surprises and keeping secrets and also putting out fake news to throw people off.

All I'm saying is, can a brother get his Cred if it's "More Than"...lol If not, then no harm right?

BOOM!

I said in a video back in 2021, there was no reason for the Durango Hellcat to be a one year only run because sources was telling me it was minor updates they had to do to the fuel system to make certify for 2022. So a year later I was proven right.

And if you look at the screenshots of the 2025 mule, they used the transmission from the Wrangler 392, Ram 1500, and the Wagoneer and that trans is rated at a max of 550 ft of torque. Even if there is a an electric motor to boost power, they still would need a more powerful transmission because of the type of EV motors they use in their hybrids. Stellantis press release and crate engine documents confirm the Hurricane HO will be between 500 and 510 hp, hence the smaller transmission. If the 2025 TRX had the 8HP95 trans, I would all day say 2025 TRX will have 700hp either through a tune or hybrid setup.

The 4xe vehicles still have the smaller inline 4 engine and cheap transmissions because they can't get the inline 6 hybrid to work right from what engineers told me 2 years ago from performance to packaging issues with the rear seats. If they did, we would of seen a new Trackhawk, which a Jeep spokesman confirmed last year they would make a performance hybrid Grand Cherokee. And you would think they would put that system in a SRT Grand Wagoneer to take on the Escalade V.

 

[saturnfire]

Welcome to Stellantis where they will source the cheapest parts in the most expensive vehicles.
I would love to see how Tim Scamniskis is going to show us a Inline 6 Hurricane is better than a 6.2L Supercharged Hemi

because FJB said you don't need a V8, "come on man"

 

[MHaynes772]

What if we are all wrong and the 2025 has a twin turbo V8, something smaller like BMW uses, and it makes a shit ton of power and all our supercharged 6.2's drop in value like a dead fly. Wouldn't that suck for us? Not saying it's true, but it would suck.....

I would fucking LOVE a Twin Turbo V8 like the BMW uses. That motor is amazing. I would also welcome an electric motor for mild hybrid assist. Extra torque, better MPG. Hell yeah

I absolutely LOVE my truck, but MY GOD does it get old filling it up. Would be nice if it had cylinder deactivation or something.

 

[Eighty]

Would be nice if it had cylinder deactivation or something.

Your TRX privileges are hereby revoked. First rule of shitty mileage club is you don’t talk about shitty mileage.

 

[AlphaInfinity]

We are lucky enough to own a TRX and a 22 X7 M50i. If RAM came up with a bi-turbo V8 that comes even close to what BMW has engineered, I would be a happy guy! That engine is a monster and the power never stops. Amazing engine!

 

[Blacksheep6]

I'm not sure one way or the other. The test mule is missing the decal, so the middle ridge appears pronounced due to the reflection. But I could almost swear that it's a bit taller.

My truck:
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test mule:
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Gotta fit that red eye blower under there!

 

[Torqued]

Good thing it isn’t a V6.

The 3.6 V-6 will not be offered in the TRX

 

[Viperjim]

Eighty, first off, your information has always been pretty factual. on point, and you bring an "A" game to this forum. Thank You!

HOWEVER, I'm just saying that I understand that there is Hurricane Six in the 2025 TRX, but does anyone REALLY know the output for the TRX? I don't remember seeing any info as to the numbers FOR the 2025 TRX, just the generic numbers for the Hurricane itself, and the fact that the Mules have the Hurricane in them. No performance figures posted anywhere for the TRX.

Straight from Stellantis' News outlet:

"Stellantis promises, will offer "more than 400 horsepower and more than 450 lb-ft of torque," at a max of 5,800 rpm. The high output variant will offer "more than 500 HP and more than 475 lb-ft of torque" at up to 6,100 rpm in their initial configurations".

I'm looking at the "more than" and "initial configuration" part. Could there be "more than" is all I'm saying...also, Koval said to TFL Truck before he got canned, "what about electrification?" at one of the Car Shows this year.

So maybe there is a small electric motor on the engine like the past V-8's that provide a bump in Torque? A tune that's beyond an "initial configuration"?

Lastly, a Test Mule is exactly that......is not a Final Production model and are destroyed after tests are completed, they are not sold.

IDK...NOBODY does right now... But Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins the races...

Right now, Ford is saying their 2024 Raptor R will be "more than" 700 HP.....But, nobody really knows as of yet, only speculations. RAM/Dodge are good about surprises and keeping secrets and also putting out fake news to throw people off.

All I'm saying is, can a brother get his Cred if it's "More Than"...lol If not, then no harm right?

BOOM!

From what I’ve heard there are 3 levels of Hurricane motors. Level 1 is 400 hp and level 2 is 512 twin turbo and crate X which is supposed to be 1000 hp. Don’t know if all is true and the crate X won’t be an option.

 

[Russ103]

I'm not sure one way or the other. The test mule is missing the decal, so the middle ridge appears pronounced due to the reflection. But I could almost swear that it's a bit taller.

My truck:
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test mule:
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I was wrong. It’s definitely the same now that I’m seeing your side by side pics.

 

[The dude]

The 3.6 V-6 will not be offered in the TRX

Yes, that’s why I said good thing it isn’t a V6 in response to the guy complaining about a V6.