DEAL $9000 off MSRP is back @ Granger Motors

[ralphsmithiii]

Considering you have a trackhawck, I’m guessing you have a pretty large tax credit. A level 2 would probably push 9k in tax. So you’d have to get a 3rd party offer that’s around 9k higher than granger to recoup that tax credit. Granger probably won’t low ball you that much, they were only 2500-3000 lower than my local offers on my trade in, and I’m sure that’s pretty consistent with other people who have traded in. The discount more than makes up for that. It’s just your personal preference, what are you comfortable sales tax wise, by taking the ease of trading in locally compared to sending it to granger for what they offer. I wouldn’t mind losing 1-2k tax by trading locally if I don’t have to bother with shipping it up to Iowa, but it’s your money, not mine

Great response and helps me a bit as I'm someone who sometimes overthinks it to the point of no action, which in turn is an action...hah!

The local dealership has a 2021 trade-in (local) for a guy who wanted to purchase the Ignition Edition, and did from the same dealership. It's 95% on how I would spec a 22 so its tempting. While it's current used vehicle prices, its not some of the crazy ones I've seen where they are asking 20k+ over. The good news is the local dealership is willing to deal some on it. They are offering me what I would consider a very good deal on my trade-in to the point where we went round 1 of negiations, and I was able to get several thousand more to do the deal. But, if all the stars aligned, and I waited the L2 wait times, I could be looking at getting a 2022 and saving several thousand dollars, depending on trade values during the time of trade-in. The Trackhawk is my daily, but I have another vehicle I could drive in the meantime, although its my small 2dr weekend track car, so not super ideal but doable. To your point, it comes down to, am I OK with having a super easy transaction for a 2021 locally with pretty much everyything I want, and moving on with life. Overall payment cost goes down a hundred or so due to having positve equtiy in the Trackhawk, as I would be financing (and a new loan, so starting over) but I don't keep vehicles more than a couple-ish years typically. Decisons..decisions. On paper, buying new makes more sense mathmatically. But, there' still an inherent value for me to have an easy transaction when a trade-in is involved in a different state and not knowing the value of said trade-in possibly up to 6 months from now.

 

[KEWLGUY53403]

Not 100% sure if this is the appropriate thread to ask this question and if not, please move/delete as-needed. My question is, has anyone here either traded in and/or anticipate trading it their current vehicle when purchasing from Granger? That's something I need to consider, and the logistics around it, as it will greatly influence overall price, time, hassle, and so fourth, considering I'm down in Florida.

So far from what Amanda has told me is they take in trades but only 30 days out, which for a L2 we all know seem to be 3+ months away, depending on actual options, supply chain, etc...

From what I can tell, these deals under MSRP are awesome and down here in Florida, they have zero interest in playing, which makes it extremely hard to support any local dealership. However, there is a cost/value of being able to drive down the street, get my Trackhawk assessed, turn the keys over and call it a day. Plus, there's no shipping to and from, unknown trade value (which is fair since the market is all over the place) but still trying to figure out if I should roll the dice and order, wait maybe 3, 6 or more months and see then what my trade-in is worth. Sure, I could sell it for a pretty decent number privately but then lose out on the tax savings, which I have factored into overall costs of buying new and even used.

But so far, working with Amanda through emails has been a great experience!

They are doing that to price protect themselves considering the current market. I'm trading my Trackhawk in now and they beat my local dealers offer by 3k for the trade in plus 5k off at the time (May 2020) for a total difference of 8k. In my state I get a tax break for trading in. If I sold the TH and bought the TRX I'd be eating an extra 7500 in taxes between the two.

Of course, I'm willing to drive the TH in and the TRX out of IA. It's a 6 hour trip for me.

 

[Hemi505]

Nothing wrong with the Alpine. You just have to turn up the equalizer levels super high

100%.

It sounded flat with the factory settings. Also it sounds best with the fader slightly biased to the rear.

 

[JUGRNAT22]

Why do you guys care about proximity sensor so much ? My only issue with RAM is not having a key touch panel on the door to open without keys. I'm a trail runner and I don't like to have anything in my pockets when I run. With Raptor I'd just lock the keys in a faraday bag in the car and open the car with the 4 digit code .

Well the key touch panel on the door to open without keys is what is called proximity sensor so if you don’t have level 2 you have to get your keys out all the time to unlock and lock or open your tailgate. With the raptor of course it was nice atleast with my Gen 1 I used my keypad all the time and it was far more convenient than digging in my pants every time to get in my truck and my Gen 2 had the proximity sensors so of course convenience. And when your hands are full and you can grab the door pad sensor open or close that’s nice.

 

[Claasicdrive]

Well the key touch panel on the door to open without keys is what is called proximity sensor so if you don’t have level 2 you have to get your keys out all the time to unlock and lock or open your tailgate. With the raptor of course it was nice atleast with my Gen 1 I used my keypad all the time and it was far more convenient than digging in my pants every time to get in my truck and my Gen 2 had the proximity sensors so of course convenience. And when your hands are full and you can grab the door pad sensor open or close that’s nice.

Key pad is not proximity sensor . My 2017 lowest trim had the key pad to open the door and that suv was base with no upgrades

 

[JUGRNAT22]

Key pad is not proximity sensor . My 2017 lowest trim had the key pad to open the door and that suv was base with no upgrades

Cause that’s a ford thing. And you said a key touch panel which can be construed as the same touch panel that’s on the dodge for the proximity sensor. Sorry I mistook you.

 

[evillrdnikon]

Does anyone have a valid way to confirm this? Granger mentioned to me if I ordered I will get it
Ordered 10/27

 

[losin_mo_$$]

Does anyone have a valid way to confirm this? Granger mentioned to me if I ordered I will get it
Ordered 10/27

confirm what?

 

[ralphsmithiii]

They are doing that to price protect themselves considering the current market. I'm trading my Trackhawk in now and they beat my local dealers offer by 3k for the trade in plus 5k off at the time (May 2020) for a total difference of 8k. In my state I get a tax break for trading in. If I sold the TH and bought the TRX I'd be eating an extra 7500 in taxes between the two.

Of course, I'm willing to drive the TH in and the TRX out of IA. It's a 6 hour trip for me.

Absolutely agree. I’d be trading in locally or to Granger for sure to get the tax savings. The $2 question is, wait and roll the dice on a new L2, hope the trade values are still solid (I expect them to be, but who really knows), deal with shipping it up North and the new truck back down, or pa

They are doing that to price protect themselves considering the current market. I'm trading my Trackhawk in now and they beat my local dealers offer by 3k for the trade in plus 5k off at the time (May 2020) for a total difference of 8k. In my state I get a tax break for trading in. If I sold the TH and bought the TRX I'd be eating an extra 7500 in taxes between the two.

Of course, I'm willing to drive the TH in and the TRX out of IA. It's a 6 hour trip for me.

Agree 100%. To clarify, I would be trading it in locally or through Granger for the tax savings either way. I'm trying to determine if waiting for the 22 L2's is the right play, or if I just pay more for a 2021 spec'd the way used locally and be done with it. From my broken math, if I factor in travel costs to and from Florida, guesstimated trade-in value (I know what my local dealer is offering as of today), and wait time, I would still come out ahead with a new truck from Granger. But with the trade-in value I'm getting today, being able to do the deal 30 mins from my house and calling it done, that has a value to me as well...just not sure how much

And that's awesome you're only 6 hours away lol. I'm an easy 20 or <1500 miles, although I've flown to PA to buy a Z06 (was a mess do passed) but picked up a S63 AMG many years ago from TN and drove it back 14 hours with no issues, so could have the bigger chunk in delivery costs for the TRX down to FL there.

 

[KEWLGUY53403]

Absolutely agree. I’d be trading in locally or to Granger for sure to get the tax savings. The $2 question is, wait and roll the dice on a new L2, hope the trade values are still solid (I expect them to be, but who really knows), deal with shipping it up North and the new truck back down, or pa

Agree 100%. To clarify, I would be trading it in locally or through Granger for the tax savings either way. I'm trying to determine if waiting for the 22 L2's is the right play, or if I just pay more for a 2021 spec'd the way used locally and be done with it. From my broken math, if I factor in travel costs to and from Florida, guesstimated trade-in value (I know what my local dealer is offering as of today), and wait time, I would still come out ahead with a new truck from Granger. But with the trade-in value I'm getting today, being able to do the deal 30 mins from my house and calling it done, that has a value to me as well...just not sure how much

And that's awesome you're only 6 hours away lol. I'm an easy 20 or <1500 miles, although I've flown to PA to buy a Z06 (was a mess do passed) but picked up a S63 AMG many years ago from TN and drove it back 14 hours with no issues, so could have the bigger chunk in delivery costs for the TRX down to FL there.

Hmm. Well, I think shipping is going to be just over 3k if you have to pay for both vehicles to be shipped. If you're math were my math, it'd still be worth it (5k) mathematically today, though I don't know the numbers on your trade in locally. Would it be worth the discounted savings to wait though? Get paid 1k/month to wait? The other part is the risk of the bottom falling out of the used car market between then and now. For this I think the answer is no, I think deloitte just put out their analysis of the future used car market it's not looking like it's going to ease until 2023 sometime. I also think Gen. Custard said that so...

Also a few things on 22's - Uconnect 5 and wireless. Plus the Level 2 additions of HK & Tech. If you don't care about those you'd be paying for them. Maybe subtract that from 'my' 5k above if you aren't interested and the truck you're looking at doesn't have them.

Re-reading what I wrote I think I just made this more difficult not less..

 

[ralphsmithiii]

Welp, the younger (I'm not that old) version of me would of made the deal locally, tried to justify it 3 ways to Sunday, and have a used 2021 TRX in my driveway today. However, the "wiser" version of me is saying, "you're an idiot" for not saving several thousands of dollars and all I really have to do is wait. I most certainly fall into the category of, "I have more time than money" and I'm working on valuing my money a tad bit more, so I've submitted my build to Granger for a 2022 L2 with some add-ons and are waiting to hear back on next steps.

The local dealer who I was working with of course was not super thrilled and are telling me there's noway possible that any dealers are selling them for $9k under MSRP as they sell them here for at least $10k over MSRP. From what I can see, these deals are legit with no additional hidden costs and dealer markups once booked and such, so I'm rolling the dice and hoping for the best.

@Zach@Granger how can one utilize your services through this purchasing experience with Granger? I'm working with Amanda through emails with getting an order booked otherwise.

Thanks for the input and help everyone!

 

[zr6wannabe]

Absolutely agree. I’d be trading in locally or to Granger for sure to get the tax savings. The $2 question is, wait and roll the dice on a new L2, hope the trade values are still solid (I expect them to be, but who really knows), deal with shipping it up North and the new truck back down, or pa

Agree 100%. To clarify, I would be trading it in locally or through Granger for the tax savings either way. I'm trying to determine if waiting for the 22 L2's is the right play, or if I just pay more for a 2021 spec'd the way used locally and be done with it. From my broken math, if I factor in travel costs to and from Florida, guesstimated trade-in value (I know what my local dealer is offering as of today), and wait time, I would still come out ahead with a new truck from Granger. But with the trade-in value I'm getting today, being able to do the deal 30 mins from my house and calling it done, that has a value to me as well...just not sure how much

And that's awesome you're only 6 hours away lol. I'm an easy 20 or <1500 miles, although I've flown to PA to buy a Z06 (was a mess do passed) but picked up a S63 AMG many years ago from TN and drove it back 14 hours with no issues, so could have the bigger chunk in delivery costs for the TRX down to FL there.

Not sure how it works in your state, in Missouri you have 180 days to submit paperwork to net a credit against the purchase of a new vehicle- see this form for reference: https://dor.mo.gov/forms/426.pdf

 

[Gogoquadzilla]

Not sure how it works in your state, in Missouri you have 180 days to submit paperwork to net a credit against the purchase of a new vehicle- see this form for reference: https://dor.mo.gov/forms/426.pdf

Yep, that's what I plan on doing, but in some states (even KS I think) it has to be in the same state or a trade-in at the same time.

 

[Rammit]

I placed my order with Amanda today. I ended up going with the level 2. I don’t mind waiting, but am concerned that I may never get it. Zack, do you feel you will be able honor this and actually get the truck, even if it’s a long time (10-12 months)???

 

[Claasicdrive]

I placed my order with Amanda today. I ended up going with the level 2. I don’t mind waiting, but am concerned that I may never get it. Zack, do you feel you will be able honor this and actually get the truck, even if it’s a long time (10-12 months)???

Factory won't even build 2022 model in 10 months ( Oct 2022)

 

[Zach@Granger]

Welp, the younger (I'm not that old) version of me would of made the deal locally, tried to justify it 3 ways to Sunday, and have a used 2021 TRX in my driveway today. However, the "wiser" version of me is saying, "you're an idiot" for not saving several thousands of dollars and all I really have to do is wait. I most certainly fall into the category of, "I have more time than money" and I'm working on valuing my money a tad bit more, so I've submitted my build to Granger for a 2022 L2 with some add-ons and are waiting to hear back on next steps.

The local dealer who I was working with of course was not super thrilled and are telling me there's noway possible that any dealers are selling them for $9k under MSRP as they sell them here for at least $10k over MSRP. From what I can see, these deals are legit with no additional hidden costs and dealer markups once booked and such, so I'm rolling the dice and hoping for the best.

@Zach@Granger how can one utilize your services through this purchasing experience with Granger? I'm working with Amanda through emails with getting an order booked otherwise.

Thanks for the input and help everyone!

She's the one to talk to or Jackie. They'll make sure you're taken care of.

 

[KEWLGUY53403]

I placed my order with Amanda today. I ended up going with the level 2. I don’t mind waiting, but am concerned that I may never get it. Zack, do you feel you will be able honor this and actually get the truck, even if it’s a long time (10-12 months)???

Not getting orders has so far not been a problem with RAM.

 

[MCooper]

I am about to place an order, but wondering if anyone knows about any possible changes to 2023 model?

 

[FMarji]

I am about to place an order, but wondering if anyone knows about any possible changes to 2023 model?

Not that I have heard, honestly with how fast newer ordered are going D1 and with the awesome discounts off MSRP, also given the multiple price increases… I’d jump on this deal. @Zach@Granger has been transparent and awesome. Amanda is also great to deal with and they are seeing movement on builds. Make the leap, join the wait

 

[cowgomoo]

8/13……. Still waiting ….. it’s painful