RFH Lock now available on TRX trucks

[Eighty]

I'm new to this have a trx so what does this do or accomplish?

It prevents thieves from programming a new key fob and stealing your truck with it.

 

[Tir421]

It prevents thieves from programming a new key fob and stealing your truck with it.

So where can I get this work done on my truck?

 

[Because I Was Inverted]

So where can I get this work done on my truck?

Your local Dodge dealer.

 

[trxvet]

Following

 

[nyinstaller]

As a dodge tech with access to everything I can assure you Mopar has not released the update for the Trx yet. They maybe flashing the RFH module with the available software for the charger etc. I can do the same and I’m sure it will be fine. But it also may not be.

Anyways the real thing you should do is look into a IGLA device. We offer it at Uptown CDJR in Dallas.

The device stops the ability of Programing keys erasing keys. Starting the vehicle ( ie repeater attacks)
Also stoops the ability for repeater attack to remote start and do a take over. Vehicle will not be able to come out of gear.

Device is so small and undetectable. I install these on all vehicles. Trackhawks. Trx charger challenger durango. All works the same.

The small device just works and when it is disarmed it allows keys to be programmed. So it doesn’t completely lock down the module which isn’t the best of ways the offense could of been approached.

FYI you can find a key on eBay or Amazon for a fraction of the cost.

 

[Because I Was Inverted]

As a dodge tech with access to everything I can assure you Mopar has not released the update for the Trx yet. They maybe flashing the RFH module with the available software for the charger etc. I can do the same and I’m sure it will be fine. But it also may not be.

My dealer performed this service for me and sold me a third key. Is there a way I can test it ?

 

[RedEyeTRX]

As a dodge tech with access to everything I can assure you Mopar has not released the update for the Trx yet. They maybe flashing the RFH module with the available software for the charger etc. I can do the same and I’m sure it will be fine. But it also may not be.

Anyways the real thing you should do is look into a IGLA device. We offer it at Uptown CDJR in Dallas.

The device stops the ability of Programing keys erasing keys. Starting the vehicle ( ie repeater attacks)
Also stoops the ability for repeater attack to remote start and do a take over. Vehicle will not be able to come out of gear.

Device is so small and undetectable. I install these on all vehicles. Trackhawks. Trx charger challenger durango. All works the same.

The small device just works and when it is disarmed it allows keys to be programmed. So it doesn’t completely lock down the module which isn’t the best of ways the offense could of been approached.

FYI you can find a key on eBay or Amazon for a fraction of the cost.

IGLA install video?

 

[Tir421]

As a dodge tech with access to everything I can assure you Mopar has not released the update for the Trx yet. They maybe flashing the RFH module with the available software for the charger etc. I can do the same and I’m sure it will be fine. But it also may not be.

Anyways the real thing you should do is look into a IGLA device. We offer it at Uptown CDJR in Dallas.

The device stops the ability of Programing keys erasing keys. Starting the vehicle ( ie repeater attacks)
Also stoops the ability for repeater attack to remote start and do a take over. Vehicle will not be able to come out of gear.

Device is so small and undetectable. I install these on all vehicles. Trackhawks. Trx charger challenger durango. All works the same.

The small device just works and when it is disarmed it allows keys to be programmed. So it doesn’t completely lock down the module which isn’t the best of ways the offense could of been approached.

FYI you can find a key on eBay or Amazon for a fraction of the cost.

So what ur saying is get a igla device but it doesn't actually work quite good but get one anyways? So what's the point of getting a igla device
when it doesn't work? Did I read I wrong? Because I am in the market for one.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

So the moral of this thread is there IS NO Mopar fix for the TRX ??????????????

 

[93ls1rx7TRX]

So what ur saying is get a igla device but it doesn't actually work quite good but get one anyways? So what's the point of getting a igla device
when it doesn't work? Did I read I wrong? Because I am in the market for one.

You definitely read it wrong. He said to forget about the Dodge lockdown and instead get the IGLA.

 

[Tir421]

You definitely read it wrong. He said to forget about the Dodge lockdown and instead get the IGLA.

Ok so the IGLA is better than the dodge lock down then ok. Because I'm in the market for that at the moment.

 

[PredKey]

Just to be clear: I didn't get the lockdown done. I was merely talking about it with the dealer.

I ended up getting Ravelco. I looked at IGLA too, but I didn't want another fob, and I don't want to support a Russian-based company given the current issues. Obviously a small drop in a large pond, but I don't want to be that small drop either.

They're installing it now on my truck. Will I lose remote start when the security key isn't plugged in?
Yes.

But I also park my truck in my garage at nights, so I'll leave it in overnight in the garage so I can still remote start the next morning. Its more for peace of mind when out and about so I don't have to worry about my truck being gone when I come out of the movies, or Home Depot, or when we stay overnight somewhere at a hotel. Definitely worth it for me.

 

[Kojak]

Is the RH lockdown coming on new TRX’s from the factory now or do you have still get it reprogrammed at the dealer?

 

[Daniel J]

Not sure this is really offered yet, or at least, it varies by dealer. When I picked up my TRX 3 weeks ago, the dealer told me that said Ram didn't offer it, they would not perform it. It was only cleared to be done on Dodge vehicles.

Also as a recap, this is my own personal journey on researching various security methods. Best option for my needs, is I have decided to add a Ravelco, and that's it. But this is what I considered..............

1) LAYER 1 - For whatever reason, it is fairly easy to circumvent the RF key fob system on TRXs (and Dodge, and Jeep, and Chrysler) if you have the right equipment (which isn't terribly hard to get if the thief makes the effort). There are various ways this is done, but they all amount to "cloning" your key fob or its signal somehow. There are also many ways to defeat these attacks, depending on the method the thief uses. IMHO, the best way to beat this problem is not to chase individual defeats (faraday pouches, RF module lockdown, etc.), but rather to add another interrupt, separate from the RF system. There are several aftermarket solutions for this (Ravelco, Mobilistics starter relay, etc.). They all have their pros and cons, and there is no universally acknowledged "best one." Look into them and decide for yourself.

2) LAYER 2 - If all that failed, and they manage to steal your truck anyway, then you can look at various ways to track it down. Apple Air Tags is perhaps the easiest and cheapest, but there are many systems out there that are more sophisticated if you want to go that route. Of course there is some personal risk involved here if you try to recover it yourself. You can always call the cops, but vehicle theft is low priority / no priority for most police departments. Up to you how/if you want to pursue this.

3) There is NO full-proof method. At the very least, as long as tow trucks exist, cars can be stolen no matter what you do. Only question is how much money and inconvenience are you willing to invest to make it harder, so they move on to an easier mark.

Hope this helps.

 

[Yaro]

Might be a dumb question. For someone to copy your key to get into the truck do you actually have to use it Lock/Unlock the truck or is it just being on you and they around you they can copy it ?

 

[Cobrajet16]

Might be a dumb question. For someone to copy your key to get into the truck do you actually have to use it Lock/Unlock the truck or is it just being on you and they around you they can copy it ?

I would like to know and understand that question also

 

[Eighty]

As long as they can communicate with the fob, they can clone it. No button presses on your part necessary.
So if it’s sitting on your counter in the kitchen, and they can pick up the signal, then they can clone it.

 

[cubsfaninsc]

Your fob emits a constant RF signal, 24/7. If the thieves are near your truck, and your fob is close enough, they can capture and clone your RF signal with a repeater box. If they capture your signal, that box is like a new fob, and they can unlock the door and start the truck. Then, they will drive it to an undisclosed location, where they can hookup a laptop and make a “new” key fob, rendering yours useless. In lamens terms.

 

[Yaro]

Your fob emits a constant RF signal, 24/7. If the thieves are near your truck, and your fob is close enough, they can capture and clone your RF signal with a repeater box. If they capture your signal, that box is like a new fob, and they can unlock the door and start the truck. Then, they will drive it to an undisclosed location, where they can hookup a laptop and make a “new” key fob, rendering yours useless. In lamens terms.

This makes my head

 

[Daniel J]

Your fob emits a constant RF signal, 24/7. If the thieves are near your truck, and your fob is close enough, they can capture and clone your RF signal with a repeater box. If they capture your signal, that box is like a new fob, and they can unlock the door and start the truck. Then, they will drive it to an undisclosed location, where they can hookup a laptop and make a “new” key fob, rendering yours useless. In lamens terms.

Yep, all correct. They can also skip right to the clone part. Break your window, enter truck, plug laptop into your OBD port, make a new fob that they brought with them, drive off. Takes just a couple minutes to do, and there are many verified reports of several TRXs (and other Hellcats) being stolen this way.

This is exactly the type of theft method that the free RF module lock down process will defeat. It prevents ANYONE (including the dealer) from making new fobs. There are two downsides to having this done however: 1) The clone-via-laptop attack is the ONLY theft method that this will defeat. Boosting your fob's signal via a repeater will still be effective, at least to drive away with the truck. 2) If you ever lose a fob, or both your fobs, you cannot make a new one. You'd have to get your RF module replaced to do so which = $$$$$$$$$$.

So, again, my personal advice would be not to chase the various methods that thieves use to circumvent the RF system. Use a different interrupt that they cannot duplicate (see my above post).