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[zaimer]

Elaborate. I'm trying to learn sometimes today lol

Without going terribly in-depth , a sale of a vehicle is more complex than most consumers assume at face value.

 

[Sinister4]

Im really amazed in the auto world they do not require a "real" deposit on a ordered car, lets say 15%, no refund this would weed out all the "ill take one" BS and would sure help those with legit orders get there truck or car much sooner. Look at the jacked up mess ordering a zo6 is right now.

 

[260onthego]

Or dont elaborate lmao

 

[zaimer]

Im really amazed in the auto world they do not require a "real" deposit on a ordered car, lets say 15%, no refund this would weed out all the "ill take one" BS and would sure help those with legit orders get there truck or car much sooner. Look at the jacked up mess ordering a zo6 is right now.

The dealer isn't at much of a loss either way. "Worst" case is the buyer backs out on the order, and they get to keep the vehicle on their lot for inventory (which they likely wouldn't have had otherwise). They'll also be able to charger their regular margins, if not greater.

Also, depending on the state, it can actually be illegal for a dealer to keep a customer deposit.

 

[Sinister4]

The dealer isn't at much of a loss either way. "Worst" case is the buyer backs out on the order, and they get to keep the vehicle on their lot for inventory (which they likely wouldn't have had otherwise). They'll also be able to charger their regular margins, if not greater.

Also, depending on the state, it can actually be illegal for a dealer to keep a customer deposit.

Yeah but it still screws up the overall system if theres a limited number of cars, does me no good to hear "oh we are not taking orders" when half the orders accepted are fakes. And you are a legit buyer. guess thats the way of the new world tho

 

[shapiroeric]

I had a long discussion about this with the SA at Chapman....less than 5% of their orders got turned away and they don't like it when they do....even though they can likely sell it they say that Ram frowns upon a customer car that then gets sold by the dealer.....too much and it could affect what they're allocated down the road.....

 

[zaimer]

they don't like it when they do....even though they can likely sell it they say that Ram frowns upon a customer car that then gets sold by the dealer.....too much and it could affect what they're allocated down the road.....

This is 100% true. The higher ups are not completely stupid. A dealership should not have a huge number of customers backing out of the deal... unless there is something else going on (which shouldn't be). So to say the majority of these orders are "fakes" simply isn't true. In most cases, the dealer and customer have the intentions of that order going through.

 

[zaimer]

Yeah but it still screws up the overall system if theres a limited number of cars, does me no good to hear "oh we are not taking orders" when half the orders accepted are fakes. And you are a legit buyer. guess thats the way of the new world tho

Yes/no. I feel the dealers offering deep discounts AND requiring no deposit still represent the minority of the overall sales of that vehicle. There also aren't many that offer no deposit, many do require one. Most of these vehicles are not limited either, in terms of the number of orders that are allowed. Stellantis focuses on volume and brining in as much money as possible, even if that means breaking promises.

 

[FoCoJayCo]

Yes/no. I feel the dealers offering deep discounts AND requiring no deposit still represent the minority of the overall sales of that vehicle. There also aren't many that offer no deposit, many do require one. Most of these vehicles are not limited either, in terms of the number of orders that are allowed. Stellantis focuses on volume and brining in as much money as possible, even if that means breaking promises.

Most on here require a deposit, but it's refundable. That's not tremendously different from no deposit.

 

[@JC]

Most on here require a deposit, it's NON refundable.

Fixed that for you. Granger very recently is offering no deposit (not sure how long that will last), everyone else still requires one.

 

[Fireman53d]

I’m not saying buy 2 but order 2 just incase 1 doesn’t show up for whatever reason

That literally makes no sense. What if they both get cancelled? Better order 4.

 

[zaimer]

That literally makes no sense. What if they both get cancelled? Better order 4.

Yeah, but be careful playing with fire. I've seen in several instances where guys want to beat the odds with ordering, by ordering vehicles at several locations. Stellantis will cancel every last you of them if that lands on their radar. There isn't a damn thing your dealer can do about it either.

 

[zaimer]

Fixed that for you. Granger very recently is offering no deposit (not sure how long that will last), everyone else still requires one.

I saw that and I was a bit surprised. Granger has always required some sort of deposit on vehicle orders.

 

[Fireman53d]

I saw that and I was a bit surprised. Granger has always required some sort of deposit on vehicle orders.

I think they wouldnt mind if you cancelled so they can sell it for more. They have nothing to lose.

 

[LDN]

Most dealers would still keep the deposit if 'non-refundable' , even if they can sell it for more

 

[Belltown1]

That literally makes no sense. What if they both get cancelled? Better order 4.

How does that make no sense? People are saying sometimes their order got canceled for whatever reason. So I ordered 2 just incase.. if they both get canceled then I guess wasn’t meant to be

 

[Belltown1]

That literally makes no sense. What if they both get cancelled? Better order 4.

You on the job?

 

[Eighty]

I think they wouldnt mind if you cancelled so they can sell it for more. They have nothing to lose.

The dealers can be penalized by Stellantis if they have too many “sold orders” that aren’t sold to the original name listed on the order. So they do care.

 

[Fireman53d]

You on the job?

Any that got cancelled was an anomaly. No need to overthink it. You order, get a VIN in a few days and sit back and relax. I still am. On my 32nd year as a FF/Paramedic. Retired once in Fl, started over and I got 6 years to get my 2nd retirement.

 

[Belltown1]

Any that got cancelled was an anomaly. No need to overthink it. You order, get a VIN in a few days and sit back and relax. I still am. On my 32nd year as a FF/Paramedic. Retired once in Fl, started over and I got 6 years to get my 2nd retirement.

Nice, I only got 10 on so I got a long way to go. I guess I can’t get into an argument about this with you since technically ur a senior guy and I’m still considered junior in my department lol