NEW JLT 3.0 Oil Separators (Passenger Side) for 2021+ Ram TRX Hellcat 6.2L (2021, 2022, 2023, 2024)! (Detailed Info / Feedback)

[Spartan1]

Ok so it sounds like it is more about the cold aluminum can and the hot air. Maybe the condensation mostly forms in the can then and not the lines. It makes sense to me that the increased cold surface area matters. Not sure on the turbulent flow really. I still don't see how it is a totally "closed system" since air is coming in and out. Maybe we need a heating and cooling guy and a weatherman to explain it. Anyways, I bet that if you insulate the can it might help. Possibly insulating the lines as well?? This got me thinking. Maybe I could just slap one of these on and see what happens but the problem is that I threw all of mine away when I bought the yeti ones that I never use anyway. I have included pictures below of 2 models one for those of you who are single and one for those who are married.

 

[El Jefe]

Ok so it sounds like it is more about the cold aluminum can and the hot air. Maybe the condensation mostly forms in the can then and not the lines. It makes sense to me that the increased cold surface area matters. Not sure on the turbulent flow really. I still don't see how it is a totally "closed system" since air is coming in and out. Maybe we need a heating and cooling guy and a weatherman to explain it. Anyways, I bet that if you insulate the can it might help. Possibly insulating the lines as well?? This got me thinking. Maybe I could just slap one of these on and see what happens but the problem is that I threw all of mine away when I bought the yeti ones that I never use anyway. I have included pictures below of 2 models one for those of you who are single and one for those who are married.
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Busch? Really?

 

[NoHo Hank]

I checked mine out today after emptying it on Sunday and it was about 1/8 full. I added the extension on and will monitor it much more closely.

 

[Johnny@JustBoltOns]

Tons of these are shipping next week. Thank you for being so patient!

 

[NoHo Hank]

I've related this concern to J&L and will get back to you unless they post on here first. I don't think it would be a concern, especially with the larger can swap.

Did you hear back from J&L on this?

 

[Johnny@JustBoltOns]

Did you hear back from J&L on this?

Not yet actually! I will follow up with them as I Know they have been swamped these last few weeks.

 

[BlueTRX]

Received mine today. Will install tomorrow

 

[BlueTRX]

Reading the last posts here I'm wondering if I should even install this?
Very interested on hearing what @Johnny@JustBoltOns finds out from J&L.
Are most here finding an alternative can or just removing it completely?

 

[NoHo Hank]

I emptied mine again today after a little over 16 days with 5 - 6 really cold days thrown in there. It looks to be about 1/8 full with the extension, so about 1/4 with the standard set up. I will keep mine on and continue to empty it every month or so.

 

[Notachevy]

I think @KnoxRents hit the nail on the head in post 297. I'm no mechanic or engineer either, but I am a chemist. Water, in vapor form, is created in the combustion chamber along with other gases as a byproduct of combustion. Some of this is passed into the crankcase through blow back as a normal process. All this junk is sent back to the intake through the PCV system, but no additional water is added by that system. It's a closed loop. Whether the catch can was installed or not has no bearing on the amount of water produced through combustion/blow-back and passed through the PCV system. All that to say; if the catch can has water in it, it is removing water from the system not adding to it. IMHO all the more reason to leave it in.

*Edit* Of course that would mean checking it and emptying it every few days if you're up north like those reporting it filling up. Dang, I thought I had it figured out. Now I'm on the fence again. Yeah let's hear what J&L has to say!

 

[enve46]

Just spoke to J&L and we can get them starting next week

BLK - https://justboltons.com/j-l-3-0-oil-separator-can-extension-black-anodized-ext-b/

Clear - https://justboltons.com/j-l-3-0-oil-separator-can-extension-black-anodized-ext-b/

Any idea when you’ll get next shipment in?

 

[timinnd]

I'm in ND....we've had 10+ days below -30 F, I'm sure another 60 days below 0.

Reading this stuff....I'm now thinking I'm not gonna be putting it on, at least until I hear something convincing that tells me otherwise.

 

[timinnd]

Anyone have any more new/ideas/thoughts on this? What does J&L or Just Bolt On (or any retailer) think of the condensation in cold climates issue?

 

[Johnkn]

Anyone have any more new/ideas/thoughts on this? What does J&L or Just Bolt On (or any retailer) think of the condensation in cold climates issue?

What’s the issue? Cold climate = more condensation. Empty the can accordingly.


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[Frankieval123]

Anyone use an elite engineering 2 can… thoughts ?

 

[Johnny@JustBoltOns]

Anyone have any more new/ideas/thoughts on this? What does J&L or Just Bolt On (or any retailer) think of the condensation in cold climates issue?

What’s the issue? Cold climate = more condensation. Empty the can accordingly.


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i agree, it shouldn’t be issue. J&L wouldn’t be in business if it was. It’s definitely due to the cold climates and therefore requires them to be emptied much more often.

 

[Johnny@JustBoltOns]

Two weeks out or so.

Any idea when you’ll get next shipment in?

 

[BlueTRX]

Got mine in, will instal it this weekend.
My take is after reading LOTS about it is that oil will eventually harm performance in the long term if left in.

In colder months Ill probably empty mine as needed once I notice how fast condensation is forming in the can.
Warmer months-works as intendeded, no extra maintenance.

I wil probably get however the can extension to be safe, the original seems a bit too small.

 

[Johnny@JustBoltOns]

Good Morning everyone, I just wanted to share some comments that J&L had on these concerns.

With regards to the condensation:

Condensation is a common occurrence as the can is cold and remote mounted so its usually getting blasted with ambient air while 200 degree air is entering it. Essentially a bathroom effect; hot shower in a cold bathroom. It will not effect performance or negativity impact the longevity of the engine. Compared to other catch cans; our J&L catch cans are not mounted near the front grille on most applications as that is where more water than oil is collected. A larger can may extend the intervals of collection but it's grading on a curve. The larger can is going to stay cold longer and build water at a faster rate so it's not a 1:1 comparison.

With regards to the hoses:

It's not possible for the hoses to freeze with how we have cleverly placed them. Most of the water is being created in the cans, not in the hoses. We have not seen any issues with hoses freezing.

 

[Dethclaw]

Awesome, thank you @Johnny@JustBoltOns. The second point was exactly the clarification I was seeking. After some people claiming the longer lines with the J&L was the main cause of the water build up, my concern being the line running back from the can producing the water and dumping it in the engine. It makes sense the can itself would cause condensation buildup over time, however on my previous vehicle I had a more expensive can in the same climate and never experience milky oil in the can. Again thank you for reaching out to J&L.