I had IGLA for 5 Days. What you should know before installing.

IGLA is a fantastic alarm system that is very secure. It also fundamentally alters the way you start your truck. You should know the trade-offs before deciding to opt for it.
Thanks for the write up. It helps me in my decision on which way to go. Debating between IGLA or Compustar with a kill switch on the push to start. I know that security and convenience never go hand in hand so you have to pick your battles, but I'm like you, I like to get in and go.
 
I think I'm going to put a false OB2 port in and deutsch connector the factory one so you can unplug it so to say.
 
I think I'm going to put a false OB2 port in and deutsch connector the factory one so you can unplug it so to say.
False obd2 port? What would that stop? You can’t write through the obd on 2018 and newer fca vehicles with sgw. They just unplug it and hook to the gateway, there is no blocking all of them or the can bus without something like an IGLA that blocks the ability to make new fobs and the ability to start the vehicle.
 
False obd2 port? What would that stop? You can’t write through the obd on 2018 and newer fca vehicles with sgw. They just unplug it and hook to the gateway, there is no blocking all of them or the can bus without something like an IGLA that blocks the ability to make new fobs and the ability to start the vehicle.

The videos I've seen of hellcat stuff getting stolen it looked like they were plugging something into it. What were they doing ?
 
Great write-up!!! I have been on the fence about IGLA for months now, all based on the points you wrote about. I really would like more security for my truck but I don't want to have to punch in a Nintendo cheat code to start my truck up every time. I too daily drive my truck (its why I bought it) and I don't know if the things you lose are worth it to me.
Still considering a Ravelco plug. Maybe not unplugging it all the time but only when the vehicle is parked overnight or for longer periods of time. We will see.
That's what I did on my 22. Unplug if I couldn't see it - movies and such. I had a DS4 installed too. Turned up the sensitivity.

I'm not sure what I'll do for my 23. I'm glad I'm reading this. I tell you, I'd like to get a lecture bottle of HCN and have the valve turn to open 15 seconds after ite alarm or other security device is triggered. Go go sleep...forever, bitch. Not sure about colder days though.
 
The videos I've seen of hellcat stuff getting stolen it looked like they were plugging something into it. What were they doing ?
Pre 2018 probably, you can still hook to it on 2018 and newer but it won’t let you use bidirectional unless sgw is bypassed and thats really easy and on most very fast to accomplish. It all depends on what device they are using. Its far faster for them to unhook the sgw and plug straight in. Either way messing with your obd plug will do nothing to stop them. You can even cut the wires to it. You can also buy a sgw bypass harness that gives you another obd plug, it sold by z automotive as a bypass harness for charger/challengers
 
I have IGLA and I jump in and go. Sometimes I forget I have IGLA until I try to start it to back it down the driveway without my phone with me. It works with the Author ID app on my phone. When I valet I hand them my FOB. When they turn it off, it can't be restarted without my phone in the truck so when I'm ready to go, I hand them my valet ticket and phone and tell them to leave my phone in the cupholder.

Entering the PIN every time would drive me NUTS! Ask your installer why you can't use your phone as your FOB. Hope this helps.
 
I have IGLA and I jump in and go. Sometimes I forget I have IGLA until I try to start it to back it down the driveway without my phone with me. It works with the Author ID app on my phone. When I valet I hand them my FOB. When they turn it off, it can't be restarted without my phone in the truck so when I'm ready to go, I hand them my valet ticket and phone and tell them to leave my phone in the cupholder.

Entering the PIN every time would drive me NUTS! Ask your installer why you can't use your phone as your FOB. Hope this helps.
We don’t offer it because its not secure, people get in, plug their phone in, put it in a holder, in a cup holder ect and then wonder why their vehicle was taken. It also has a distance of about 25 feet so you could be in your house sleeping and its automatically authorizing your vehicle. We don’t recommend using the fob exclusively. The pin code is what make igla so great.
 
Well yes if you leave your phone in the car then you bypass the security. My range is about 10 feet but if I was really paranoid I can turn off Bluetooth to break the connection. My point for the gentleman complaining about the PIN was to let him and others know it doesn't have to be that way.
 
Well yes if you leave your phone in the car then you bypass the security. My range is about 10 feet but if I was really paranoid I can turn off Bluetooth to break the connection. My point for the gentleman complaining about the PIN was to let him and others know it doesn't have to be that way.
You don’t have to turn your bluetooth off, just close the app or press the button in the app to turn it off. People don’t do that though and thats why we say its not secure
 
Yeah security is always a trade off to convenience. For me the fob has been 100% reliable and convenient. I don't need fort Knox. I just don't want the truck stolen when I am away from it. If somehow the thief is close to me and the truck at the same time, they can have the truck. At home the keys go into a big Faraday box with all the other keys (never did that before the TRX).

When I park to go into the store, or movies, or meeting a client. It's nice to know the truck is secure if the keys are with me. Just like every car I have owned before it.

When I can see my truck, I remote start it as I am walking up. I touch the door and it unlocks. I put my keys in the center cup holder. Press the run button, reach for seat belt, and I am ready to drive. The IGLA is invisible in that sequence.

If I had to do the key sequence everytime I got in, no way it would work for me. Also I hate that the car still registers the buttons as normal. So the buttons are changing the screen or car settings as you enter them.

The holy grail is like on my Tesla. Where a big pin code entry dialogue comes up on the screen and you have to enter it to drive (if you enable the restriction). This is where the manufacturer making their software stack is a huge benefit vs outsourcing to suppliers.

I am curious why and how your fobs failed. Did your installer address that?
 
Tazer is quirky too & would be as if not more annoying on frequent start/stops. Mine hasn’t thrown any errors yet but certainly has let me start / drive the truck without a pin. It’s also “taking over” an existing system not designed for it so your dash display is trying to break through while you are attempting to use the taser interface.
So if you don't use it for the PIN, I assume it's still fine for the other stuff (Amber DRLs, Auto-Close Mirrors, etc)?
 
So if you don't use it for the PIN, I assume it's still fine for the other stuff (Amber DRLs, Auto-Close Mirrors, etc)?
Yep.. And just to be clear I do still use the pin, it can just be quirky too.
In both cases (IGLA and Tazer) the aftermarket is just trying to fix something Dodge/Ram should not have left 'wide open' in the first place.
 
IGLA is a fantastic alarm system that is very secure. It also fundamentally alters the way you start your truck. You should know the trade-offs before deciding to opt for it.

I had IGLA installed for 4 days before I decided I didn't really like it. Here's the problem: I make lots of small trips to different sites in my truck. It's my DD. I probably start it, on average, 6 times a day. Sometimes up to 10. That's just life and I enjoy the hell out of driving the TRX. When I start my truck I jump in, press the red button, buckle my seatbelt, and go. IGLA kills that ability. Now it's not that big a hassle either. It's about a 10 second commitment at every startup. But imagine running through your day at full speed and then someone puts the brakes on for an all stop for 10 seconds. It's not life-changing, but it's annoying. And it's due to something you decided to install.

So when you start your truck with IGLA you first have to wait for the gauges to "sweep" before you enter your PIN. Then enter your PIN. Then you you get the double hazard light blink that it was accepted, and now you're ready to go. Again, approximately 10 seconds in my seat of the pants estimation. Here's the kicker: if you don't wait long enough for the gauges to fully sweep, and you enter your PIN too early, then the truck will start, but it will throw an error on the dash. Mine would say "service active damping system. offroad maneuvers limited." I don't like this at all. I don't like electronic error messages from my truck. That means I need to fix something. But these were self-imposed from an alarm system I decided to install, which felt terrible. So I decided to use the fob that comes with IGLA. It is supposed to completely bypass the security system when it's inside the truck. When using remote start, this was great. I remote start from 30 seconds out, jump in the truck, and by the time I've buckled up and put it in drive, the fob and IGLA had done their thing. This seemed perfect! It was also my solution for taking the TRX in for service. I don't know about you guys, but I am not confident in RAM service centers to be able to use a PIN to start my truck, even after I explain it and train the service manager. It just isn't going to get disseminated to the workers and getting my truck serviced will be difficult. So I was hot on using the fobs, even though they reduce the security posture...until the fobs stopped working on day 3. Both of them. With new batteries installed in them.

So if the fobs aren't 100% reliable then I can't trust them at all. So the fobs are out for me. You can setup your smart phone to authenticate. That sounded promising. But I'm still out of luck regarding taking it in for service.

Also, my wife needs to be able to drive the truck from time to time. I trained her on the PIN entry. But driving it once every 6 weeks, how feasible is it for her to remember the timing required, wait for the gauges to sweep, and not get error messages? And are the error messages real errors where something isn't working correctly? Or are they just electronic errors from the mis-timed communication? I don't know. And I don't want to have to figure it out.

So I had IGLA removed. When I did my part it worked perfectly. And I am sure it is very secure. I just do not want that level of security at the expense of daily convenience. That's my personal risk/convenience posture, and I'm OK with it. I did not realize any of this before opting for IGLA. So I wanted everyone here to be in the know. You may think the IGLA intrusion is tiny, and doesn't bother you at all, and you wouldn't drive your TRX without it. To you I say, rock on, brother. I'm glad it works for you and gives you the peace of mind you want. For me, I just didn't enjoy it. And I have this truck so I can enjoy it.

Disclaimer: I know the prevailing attitude here on this forum. If you want to think me an idiot for not liking IGLA and wishing to accept the risk of theft rather than experience the mild inconvenience of IGLA, I'm fine with that. I'm 40-something years old. I know myself, and I know I am happier using my truck without it. If my truck is stolen then I have a generous insurance policy on it. And I won't be able to immediately get into another TRX. I'll have to drive something normal for a few months. I'm OK with all of that. So I'm eyes wide open here. My truck is vulnerable to theft. I get it. I'm making the fully informed decision that I would rather use the truck quickly without intervention at every startup and risk theft rather than be inconvenienced every startup.
It's odd you have to wait for the guages to sweep. I do the code as soon as the truck starts and it works for me.
 
It's odd you have to wait for the guages to sweep. I do the code as soon as the truck starts and it works for me.
Its all vehicle dependent. Its just recommended so the false faults don’t come up
 
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