Help me decide 2024 TRX or 2024 GMC Hummer

[RedEyeTRX]

BFE is not the place to take an EV but the route he described is not BFE.

We can all agree that a long drive in an EV adds time to the trip but we should also use facts when making the point.

What you describe is a best case, planned scenario. Cool.
When I am working, my plan is to meet clients, perform site visits and get my ass back to Denver and triage emails. The last thing I want to worry about is range, chargers, availability of chargers, etc. I have MUCH bigger fish to fry. I am not alone, otherwise EV sales would be in the 30-40% range.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

I think the point is if Redeye wants to drive 300 miles to bumfucknowhere, he’d be hardpressed to find a level 2 charger that worked, wasnt occupied, and still didnt take 2hrs+ to get enough juice to drive back 300miles

Sure there are charging stations among highly travelled routes but no one has to worry about that crap in a Rex. Drive to BFE every day if ya want

There be BIG MONEY in BFE Colorado!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So we go where the money is.

 

[The dude]

Maybe I am missing something, but I disagree.
If we use a Tesla 3 or Chevy Bolt, range is about 300 / 250 miles respectively. Couple that with a 300 mile trip (I go through Fairplay 285 to 50) Kenosha Pass and Monarch Pass that will deplete the battery by an extra 20-30% or "oh shit" if its cold. I would not make it to Montrose without stopping for a recharge.

There is one Supercharger in Montrose. So I would have to park there (after being towed to town due to a dead battery), leave the car and have one of my clients pick me up and drive me to the other 3 site visits? That is assuming the Supercharger is working. OR....I can drive an ICE vehicle and not even have to think about all the silly little issues of an EV. Now we see why the sales figures are still in the single digits and why 20% get rid of them for the hassle factor!

That’s why I said one stop on the way there and one on the way back. It’s definitely slower but super easy and doesn’t require any special planning to make the trip. No argument that it isn’t for everybody but when people try to say it’s impossible, or will add five hours, or they’ll have to be towed to town it just reflects pure ignorance on their part.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

That’s why I said one stop on the way there and one on the way back. It’s definitely slower but super easy and doesn’t require any special planning to make the trip. No argument that it isn’t for everybody but when people try to say it’s impossible, or will add five hours, if they’ll have to be towed to town it just reflects pure ignorance on their part.

My point is clear, I cannot assume there is a super charger. I cannot assume there is an available charger, otherwise I am stuck.

You are saying if a Bolt or 3 is at 10% charge, it can be recharged back to full range in 30 minutes with a standard recharge station?

 

[PhoenixTRX]

We go to Barrett Jackson almost every year in Scottsdale. It’s a good excuse to get away from winter in Montana.

Drive (TRX) or fly? Let me know if you'd like to do a day run (even as passenger)... can hit some iconic roads/vistas (like Crown King or Seven Springs (loop)

 

[The dude]

My point is clear, I cannot assume there is a super charger. I cannot assume there is an available charger, otherwise I am stuck.

You are saying if a Bolt or 3 is at 10% charge, it can be recharged back to full range in 30 minutes with a standard recharge station?

Finding chargers is not a difficult task. There are a ton of resources available to find where they are and what speed they are. In most EVs the nav system is designed to make life easy as well. For example, if I put in an address in Maine the nav system will plot a route to every charger needed including what percentage to charge to each time.

A 30 minute charge will get you back to 80% which is more than enough to make the drive you described. Pretty much no one will charge to 100% unless it’s absolutely necessary as that last 20% of the battery takes nearly as long as the first 80%.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

Finding chargers is not a difficult task. There are a ton of resources available to find where they are and what speed they are. In most EVs the nav system is designed to make life easy as well. For example, if I put in an address in Maine the nav system will plot a route to every charger needed including what percentage to charge to each time.

A 30 minute charge will get you back to 80% which is more than enough to make the drive you described. Pretty much no one will charge to 100% unless it’s absolutely necessary as that last 20% of the battery takes nearly as long as the first 80%.

30 min IF a SC is available.
Otherwise its 4-5 hours. Which was my point in planning for a WORST CASE scenario. I cannot plan my business around SC locations, maybe they work, 30 min stops or 4-5 hour stops.

 

[MyWifeLetMe]

If I have to stop 30 minutes to refuel/recharge, it better be to 100% full

 

[RedEyeTRX]

If I have to stop 30 minutes to refuel/recharge, it better be to 100% full

30 mins IF its working and IF there is no line.
Otherwise you risk 4-5 hours at a 220V charger .

 

[RedEyeTRX]

Finding chargers is not a difficult task. There are a ton of resources available to find where they are and what speed they are. In most EVs the nav system is designed to make life easy as well. For example, if I put in an address in Maine the nav system will plot a route to every charger needed including what percentage to charge to each time.

A 30 minute charge will get you back to 80% which is more than enough to make the drive you described. Pretty much no one will charge to 100% unless it’s absolutely necessary as that last 20% of the battery takes nearly as long as the first 80%.

I guess this is my bottom line. For a business trip (90% of my driving) I do not want to risk a 4-5 hour recharge, IF a fast charge is not available....IF its not working.....IF there is a line. So in a worst case scenario you have to plan for 4-5 hour recharges being the norm. I am not willing to do that, since a 10 min refuel is available EVERYWHERE.

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

30 mins IF its working and IF there is no line.
Otherwise you risk 4-5 hours at a 220V charger .

Other than an impending hurricane, waiting in line to fuel up (or charge) my truck will literally never happen. I’ll just go home and call out sick lol

 

[MyWifeLetMe]

30 mins IF its working and IF there is no line.
Otherwise you risk 4-5 hours at a 220V charger .

I'm just saying that if I stop, I want a full tank is all. And atleast at a gas station there is several pumps and if not, probably another station close by

 

[The dude]

30 min IF a SC is available.
Otherwise its 4-5 hours. Which was my point in planning for a WORST CASE scenario. I cannot plan my business around SC locations, maybe they work, 30 min stops or 4-5 hour stops.

Cool, don’t buy an EV, but also don’t go around saying blanket statements about how a trip will be 5 hours longer just because it’s an EV. The complete disregard for facts by both sides of the EV debate makes it get stupid fast.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

Cool, don’t buy an EV, but also don’t go around saying blanket statements about how a trip will be 5 hours longer just because it’s an EV. The complete disregard for facts by both sides of the EV debate makes it get stupid fast.

Stupid, is believing an EV possesses the same overall utility as an ICE vehicle. My point was simple, I cannot and will not risk a 4-5 hour delay.

 

[The dude]

Stupid, is believing an EV possesses the same overall utility as an ICE vehicle. My point was simple, I cannot and will not risk a 4-5 hour delay.

For you. For a lot of people who don’t need to drive 600 miles in a work day it possesses far more utility and saves them time by never going to a gas station again.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

Other than an impending hurricane, waiting in line to fuel up (or charge) my truck will literally never happen. I’ll just go home and call out sick lol

I was in Tallahassee for the Idalia, and I-10 was a mess the next day along with the only gas being a Loves running on a diesel gen set. and there were NO charging stations !

 

[RedEyeTRX]

For you. For a lot of people who don’t need to drive 600 miles in a work day it possesses far more utility and saves them time by never going to a gas station again.

Agreed!

 

[quikag]

Decided to take wife's '23 Model Y Long Range from Dallas to Corpus Christi for 4th of July week to see wife's family. It was our first EV road trip. That's a 6.5 hour, 400 mile trip each way. Charging did take about an hour each way, but it was 250kw Superchargers, McDonalds in Round Rock (outside of Austin) for the 1st stop and then top off in Corpus Christi for 30 minutes (right next to a Chick Fil A). Then on the way back, stopped at Buc-ee's that has 30+ Superchargers. For those of you that don't know Buc-ee's is a HUGE gas station with enormous amounts of food, drinks, knick-nacks, etc. It's a phenomenon here in Texas. So, stopping wasn't a big hassle and the Tesla did 85-95mph the whole way there and back effortlessly.

So, yeah 2 hours for an 12 hour trip that became a 14 hour trip is a bit annoying as we do have a 2.5 year and 5.5 year old boys, but it was definitely manageable as we had to stop anyway to use the restroom, get food, etc. Spent around $100 in electricity (due to 37 cent/kw charging cost at the Supercharger. At the house, it's 8 cents all-in for our electricity) for the whole week including driving around Corpus Christi for the 5 nights we were down there.

If we had taken my '23 TRX, it would have cost $400+ in gas and then it probably would have gotten stolen too.

So, easy decision for us.

 

[wac45]

For you. For a lot of people who don’t need to drive 600 miles in a work day it possesses far more utility and saves them time by never going to a gas station again.

I think that is really the point. EV may work for some, not for others and there are some of us that just don't want EV for any number of reasons. But the continuing push to force EV on everyone, whether they want it or not, is what torques me the most.

You are a big proponent of EV, I am not. We should both be free to choose which path we want to take in that regard. I may have been more open minded about it if EV wasn't being artificially forced into the market and trying to limit my choices in what I want to drive.

 

[Mdtrx]

6 DAYS!!!!

That’s how long you have to make a decision and find the vehicle before the only option will be a 2025 Hummer care of the UAW strike. No pressure.

Edit: in 8 days YOLO will turn to FOMO which will very quickly turn to NOMO’