Truck Stolen - IGLA Equipped (Orange County, CA)

[Air’d outSRT]

Hope you went armed!

Have my staccato hd on me

 

[TRXMIKE]

On a mopar it activates around 4 seconds after ignition off. This was not bypassed, can’t disclose information yet, one of our installers will have hands on it on Thursday to double check everything and correct the issue as to why this happened.

Really interested in how this happened. Keep us posted with what you can.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

Really interested in how this happened. Keep us posted with what you can.

I will Thursday evening

 

[Spicoli]

Yeah man, Air'd outSRT post away with what you find and I can try to post as well after the Thursday inspection.

I will say the IGLA guys reached out right away to figure out what happened...that's cool.

I'm driving to the tow yard at the border tomorrow to get it. Pics from CHP looked like exterior is in decent condition.

 

[Drwalu33]

It's possible they cased it. I don't use the fobs. I just enter the code. It's parked my personal spot every day. And a coworker parks his white TRX a few spots away. He's not in this week.


No, in the compartment above the main glove box.

Am I the only person who has read this OP's message fromt he beginning of the thread?? Or else I don't understand what you and @Air’d outSRT are wondering about.

OP said: "I don't use the fobs. I just enter the code."

It is as simple as that, the code was compromised (not difficult to do). Igla was NOT defeated.

 

[RaptorTillNow]

No, in the compartment above the main glove box.

First off I'm glad you got your truck back. I'm also looking forward to hearing why your igla truck was taken. And I don't want to rain on your parade.

But...since no one else said anything I have to... considering the way of the world, why in the hell would you leave a loaded firearm in the top part of your glove box? If you must leave it in your truck, why don't you have a safe in your truck, or better yet, have a CPL and keep it on your person?

As a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, I got to say, Geez Louise dude that's pretty freaking careless. Gives gun owners a bad rap.

 

[Spicoli]

Am I the only person who has read this OP's message fromt he beginning of the thread?? Or else I don't understand what you and @Air’d outSRT are wondering about.

OP said: "I don't use the fobs. I just enter the code."

It is as simple as that, the code was compromised (not difficult to do). Igla was NOT defeated.

Could be

First off I'm glad you got your truck back. I'm also looking forward to hearing why your igla truck was taken. And I don't want to rain on your parade.

But...since no one else said anything I have to... considering the way of the world, why in the hell would you leave a loaded firearm in the top part of your glove box? If you must leave it in your truck, why don't you have a safe in your truck, or better yet, have a CPL and keep it on your person?

As a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, I got to say, Geez Louise dude that's pretty freaking careless. Gives gun owners a bad rap.

Do have CPL, can’t or won’t say more on this for reasons.

 

[Tut]

Could be

Do have CPL, can’t or won’t say more on this for reasons.

Totally understand the “other reasons” as some workplaces are “secured” areas. I was fortunate to get a locker-down before they went out of business, but I recommend getting a console vault. I keep gun, AirTag, wheel lock, gas gap key in it. Watching this thread closely.

 

[DefusE]

Following to get the root cause if nothing else. Sounds like PIN compromise to me though.

As a general practice. I don't use the pin code or the fob. The buttons in our trucks are no different than other vehicles and over time your pin code will start to develop a wear pattern in the buttons. Take a look at where your fingers rest on the mouse and keyboard for an example. Just food for thought.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

Am I the only person who has read this OP's message fromt he beginning of the thread?? Or else I don't understand what you and @Air’d outSRT are wondering about.

OP said: "I don't use the fobs. I just enter the code."

It is as simple as that, the code was compromised (not difficult to do). Igla was NOT defeated.

Not defeated at all, he was right, he uses the pin code BUT when you leave the IGLA fobs in said vehicle even with the battery out of it well, you can see the end result. We have been going back and forth about removing the fobs from installs all together for just this reason.
More to come

 

[Sancheeeto]

with service mode and the ease of changing to a generic pin really makes having the fob almost pointless imo.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

with service mode and the ease of changing to a generic pin really makes having the fob almost pointless imo.

People are still lazy and don’t look at it from a security standpoint, hell half of the people using the IGLA fob attach it to their factory key fob, give it to others and hide it in the truck for services. All security risks as you can see

 

[Fifty]

Have to admit. I’m a computer idiot.

When you say fob, you don’t mean the compustar fob right ?

I have the compustar fob attached to my oem key fob, and enter my pin every time (well tbh o forget about a third of the times and have to shut off the truck, get out and back in and start over lol)

Lots of concussions in my life.

I want to say I put something the Igla installer gave me in my safe. But if they did, it’s buried under cnn evil things.

 

[Cherik512]

Following to get the root cause if nothing else. Sounds like PIN compromise to me though.

As a general practice. I don't use the pin code or the fob. The buttons in our trucks are no different than other vehicles and over time your pin code will start to develop a wear pattern in the buttons. Take a look at where your fingers rest on the mouse and keyboard for an example. Just food for thought.

You don't use a pin nor the fob? Is there a third way to start the truck that i was not educated on? lol

Edit: I guess you are using the phone app? I was told by my installer that the app is garbage and not worth installing, so pin code it is for me

 

[mistaHAN]

I'm so happy for OP. Looking forward to @Air’d outSRT and the assessment how this was defeated.

 

[TyRex]

Here’s a theory. They relayed the fob signal before and opened the truck. Then planted a hidden camera inside to record the PIN code. Then came the next day and stole it.

They saw you entering the code and figured this out. That’s why I always cover with my other hand when I’m entering the code.

 

[Lethal]

They saw you entering the code and figured this out. That’s why I always cover with my other hand when I’m entering the code.

Right, call me paranoid but I do something similar. I enter my code and always fake press other buttons at the same time in case of surveillance.

 

[Guest10031]

Right, call me paranoid but I do something similar. I enter my code and always fake press other buttons at the same time in case of surveillance.

TRX owners are like James Bond. Too funny.

 

[g_force]

As a general practice. I don't use the pin code or the fob. The buttons in our trucks are no different than other vehicles and over time your pin code will start to develop a wear pattern in the buttons. Take a look at where your fingers rest on the mouse and keyboard for an example. Just food for thought.

You probably don't need to worry that much. Even with wear patterns, if the code is more than a few button presses, the number of possible permutations is too hard to brute force.

I don't remember my undergrad statistics enough to do it myself, but AI calculated the number of permutations for just 5 button presses, allowing repetition, to be 3,125. There's no way a thief could brute force 3,125 different permutations of button presses. Of course, as with any password, if you made the pattern something easy (all ups and downs, one of every direction button clockwise, the Konami Code), brute force becomes easier but still unlikely.

 

[Spicoli]

Got the truck back. Inside is a mess. Dash screen doesn’t turn on at all. Outside is dirty as hell. Big driver side door scratch and dent. Rear sliding window is gone, that seems to be their entry point. CEL is on.

Orange safety vests in backseat, likely their disguise. Sunglasses, retainers, tow straps, other crap they left in the truck.

Seems to drive fine. Burned through half tank of gas. F****** a*******.