TFL TRX Tyrant review

[FoCoJayCo]

I've heard from a former engine builder that a couple heat cycles and you should be good.

I've heard people stay strict to 500 mile interval and then change oil.

I'm not 100% sure what is right on it. If its my car, I'm driving it!

I’ve read in the Ram TRX manual which recommends following the strict 500 mile break-in period. Given Ram holds the decision power to cover the factory warranty, I know which advice I’m going to follow.

 

[CUOFFRD]

I’ve read in the Ram TRX manual which recommends following the strict 500 mile break-in period. Given Ram holds the decision power to cover the factory warranty, I know which advice I’m going to follow.

But these trucks are modified and covered by a third party warranty.

 

[Todd]

My last few vehicles I did a couple hundred miles for heat cycles then go out and seat the rings. Just a few pulls with 50, 75, and then 100% throttle.

 

[OnTheReel]

But these trucks are modified and covered by a third party warranty.

One is stock.

All I know is…if my truck only had 132 miles on it, I would not be running it down a drag strip. No engine, transmission or gear builder would advise doing this with their product (or warranty it when it failed). Nevermind Ram themselves, who say no track events for the first 1500 miles.

 

[HeliPilot]

Then why are we told to "baby" the trucks for the first 500miles? Is that all passed along BS?

No idea why. But I’ve seen the production video and that’s exactly what they do. I can also tell you brand new Lycoming engines come in Robinson helicopters that run at 100% throttle on their very first flight. Wide open. There is no way to maintain flight in one without full throttle. And those engines last 2200 hours before manufacturer requires rebuild.

 

[Termite]

 

[dynaglyde]

They were also at 1000' ft above sea level.

Just a side note, i'm in Oregon and at 300 ft above sea level. I have an incognito lower pully and thats it and i ran a 12.19 in the quarter!

 

[ReachingRedline]

I'm not trying to be the negative Nancy and I know we all want to be nice, but I also can't stand back and let a dealership promote fluff amongst forum members. I called out in the original post of the Tyrant package the claimed 1 second faster with 85 crank horsepower. Despite Granger's claim that the TCM tune added to the 1 second faster the video clearly shows only a 3-tenth of a second faster. Despite the track conditions and other factors, all trucks were running in the same conditions. $7k for 3-tenths is not worth it and even worse price and performance if you opt for a 37" package. I personally don't care if you offer a warranty it's still a bad deal. To each their own if they want to spend the money for the result, but Granger needs to be honest with what the customer is getting.

 

[Trunty]

I'm not trying to be the negative Nancy and I know we all want to be nice, but I also can't stand back and let a dealership promote fluff amongst forum members. I called out in the original post of the Tyrant package the claimed 1 second faster with 85 crank horsepower. Despite Granger's claim that the TCM tune added to the 1 second faster the video clearly shows only a 3-tenth of a second faster. Despite the track conditions and other factors, all trucks were running in the same conditions. $7k for 3-tenths is not worth it and even worse price and performance if you opt for a 37" package. I personally don't care if you offer a warranty it's still a bad deal. To each their own if they want to spend the money for the result, but Granger needs to be honest with what the customer is getting.

I feel like they have been pretty open with their build list, which you can infer performance numbers from, with special consideration for environment variables. In my opinion the target buyer is something that may know enough about these builds to know they want more, but also may not want to get it done on their own and like the idea of a warrantied package. Other than the pivot on the wheel/tire setup (which I think makes sense), I feel like your average informed buyer should know exactly what they are buying and how it will impact the vehicles performance.

 

[ReachingRedline]

I feel like they have been pretty open with their build list, which you can infer performance numbers from, with special consideration for environment variables. In my opinion the target buyer is something that may know enough about these builds to know they want more, but also may not want to get it done on their own and like the idea of a warrantied package. Other than the pivot on the wheel/tire setup (which I think makes sense), I feel like your average informed buyer should know exactly what they are buying and how it will impact the vehicles performance.

If I hear you correctly, as long as Granger is open with the build list they can advertise whatever gains in time they want and it is the responsibility of the buyer to be self informed to know in reality what they will really get? Sounds like a Pesidential debate where the presidential candidates say whatever they want and it's up to the voters to be self-informed to determine what they will actually get. Sorry, doesn't pass with me.

 

[MRShadow]

Just a side note, i'm in Oregon and at 300 ft above sea level. I have an incognito lower pully and thats it and i ran a 12.19 in the quarter!

F’n roasting these chumps and their overpriced farce of a package! LOVE IT!!!

 

[Trunty]

If I hear you correctly, as long as Granger is open with the build list they can advertise whatever gains in time they want and it is the responsibility of the buyer to be self informed to know in reality what they will really get? Sounds like a Pesidential debate where the presidential candidates say whatever they want and it's up to the voters to be self-informed to determine what they will actually get. Sorry, doesn't pass with me.

I am saying claims don't matter much to me, as they are usually established in an absolute best-case scenario most won't see. So an informed buyer should look at the build list and apply common sense to what that may mean to their environment. Look at their build list, it is not that comprehensive and nothing magic.

Tyrant Performance Package

• 3.17" Supercharger Pulley & Belt
• 180 Degree Thermostat
• Colder Range Spark Plugs
• Catch Can
• High Flow ID1050 Fuel Injectors
• HPTuner - Exclusive Nth Moto Tune
• Tyrant Side Graphic & Tailgate Emblem

 

[AZDinoPwr]

I'm not trying to be the negative Nancy and I know we all want to be nice, but I also can't stand back and let a dealership promote fluff amongst forum members. I called out in the original post of the Tyrant package the claimed 1 second faster with 85 crank horsepower. Despite Granger's claim that the TCM tune added to the 1 second faster the video clearly shows only a 3-tenth of a second faster. Despite the track conditions and other factors, all trucks were running in the same conditions. $7k for 3-tenths is not worth it and even worse price and performance if you opt for a 37" package. I personally don't care if you offer a warranty it's still a bad deal. To each their own if they want to spend the money for the result, but Granger needs to be honest with what the customer is getting.

To be fair their claim is 1 second faster than a stock TRX which Ram advertises as 12.8. Actually stock TRX are closer to 12.3 (see car and driver). So 3 tenths faster than an actual stock TRX is roughly 1 second faster than the advertised stock TRX time.

Do I think it’s worth the price? No

But people on this forum have been asking for Ram to put together performance packages for the TRX just like the other hellcat platforms which I’m sure would have been in the same ballpark of cost and performance gain. Basically if you want to keep your warranty, this is what you get. You want more, then you pay to play. Get over it.

 

[ReachingRedline]

To be fair their claim is 1 second faster than a stock TRX which Ram advertises as 12.8. Actually stock TRX are closer to 12.3 (see car and driver). So 3 tenths faster than an actual stock TRX is roughly 1 second faster than the advertised stock TRX time.

Do I think it’s worth the price? No

But people on this forum have been asking for Ram to put together performance packages for the TRX just like the other hellcat platforms which I’m sure would have been in the same ballpark of cost and performance gain. Basically if you want to keep your warranty, this is what you get. You want more, then you pay to play. Get over it.

I have paid to play. Maybe you should take a look at what I've had done to mine before you make such an ignorant comment. Playing games such as it's a second faster compared to what RAM reports is BS. Anyone knows real world results is what matters. They had a stock TRX same day same conditions and they weren't a second faster. Defend them if you will, but I don't give my money to companies who give half truths and I sure won't let them take advantage of others if I see it. I don't know about you, but my money comes at the cost of my time and time is precious. I'm not trying to argue or piss people off, but I'm perplexed that anyone feels the need to support their less than truthful claims. No need for me to say anymore.

 

[RaptorTillNow]

I'm not trying to argue or piss people off, but I'm perplexed that anyone feels the need to support their less than truthful claims. No need for me to say anymore.

Now whether I agree with you or not, I've come to realize (and accept) that if someone wants to spend their money on whatever they want to spend their money on...it's their money to spend it on that something...

And being honest here, I myself have bought "bragging rights" many times before with the many sports cars ive have had... So there's that...

My position now as a mature spender of my money... It's none of "your" business... Unless I ask for "your" opinion...

 

[AZDinoPwr]

I have paid to play. Maybe you should take a look at what I've had done to mine before you make such an ignorant comment. Playing games such as it's a second faster compared to what RAM reports is BS. Anyone knows real world results is what matters. They had a stock TRX same day same conditions and they weren't a second faster. Defend them if you will, but I don't give my money to companies who give half truths and I sure won't let them take advantage of others if I see it. I don't know about you, but my money comes at the cost of my time and time is precious. I'm not trying to argue or piss people off, but I'm perplexed that anyone feels the need to support their less than truthful claims. No need for me to say anymore.

My get over it and you pay to play comment isn’t aimed at you (the first paragraph describing their times was in response to your statement)…not sure what got your panties wound so tight. My statement has nothing to do with what you have or haven’t done to your truck or how you value your time. For all I care you could have swapped a Tesla powertrain into it and a dildo as a shifter. I don’t know and it’s not relevant. My comment is specifically aimed at folks on this forum who have been asking for power broker mods through Ram so they can keep their warranty. Hence, my comment is that a lot of folks out there want more power out of the same motor with the same warranty…and I think some folks have also been thinking they should expect to see huge improvements in 0-60 and 1/4 mile with those relatively small gains on a 7000lb truck. It isn’t going to happen.

I specifically said I don’t think it is worth the price so I’m not sure how that’s defending their overall package?

As far as marketing a second faster, do I agree? No. Can I see how their marketing department came up with the claim? Sure

 

[Torqued]

We need to remember that two stock trucks (base line) can have different amounts of power. My friend and I had exactly the same bike and his was noticeably faster. I totalled that bike and bought another one. With this second bike, they were dead even. So, if i modified my slower bike the difference my modified slower bike won't have as much difference ad if I modified my second when comparing to my friends bike. Make sense?

 

[TangoDown]

Would adding a ripatuned incognito lower damper sleeve kit to the tyrant package make sense? If so, where do you think hp numbers would be?

 

[AZDinoPwr]

Would adding a ripatuned incognito lower damper sleeve kit to the tyrant package make sense? If so, where do you think hp numbers would be?

Or you could just do the 2.85 upper instead of both the upper and lower. Same blower speed and less cost.

I think some folks really don’t get the concept here that Graingers package is clearly aimed at a specific power threshold. For the exact same cost as their package they could have done a 2.85 upper instead of 3.17. Would yield about 820hp instead of 787hp. Other mods would not need to change. So why did they choose the 3.17? Because that’s where they felt comfortable placing a warranty on the powertrain.

Another thing as far as cost goes… their parts list is roughly $2500. Fair price for tune including unlock of PCM/TCM is $1500. Which means you are paying roughly $3k for install and a powertrain warranty. It’s not a bad price. Do I think it is worth it? No. But that’s only because you get a lot more performance for the same price but no warranty. For all the folks out there that want to keep warranty at all costs it will be a good deal.

 

[CUOFFRD]

Another thing as far as cost goes… their parts list is roughly $2500. Fair price for tune including unlock of PCM/TCM is $1500. Which means you are paying roughly $3k for install and a powertrain warranty. It’s not a bad price.

Hit the nail on the head! $3K for install AND warranty is key.

I won’t do it though because if I’m going modify, I’ll want to push it more than this.