Stellantis touts mega range of 2025 Ram 1500 Ramcharger

[CUOFFRD]

Will it be classified as a 1/2 or 3/4 ton since it has 8 lug wheels? That would explain the high payload capacity. Maybe 10K GVWR

 

[Eighty]

So, if it’s true that the Ramcharger will get the equivalent of 20 mpg, then I don’t see the point. I just looked up the advertised fuel economy of a shitbox Bighorn with the Pentastar engine. It gets 20 (city) and 25 (hwy). So with a 33 gallon tank you can already get the total mileage that they’re advertising.
Why strap on all of the motors and batteries, and get the same fuel economy you’re already getting with that engine?

 

[The dude]

So, if it’s true that the Ramcharger will get the equivalent of 20 mpg, then I don’t see the point. I just looked up the advertised fuel economy of a shitbox Bighorn with the Pentastar engine. It gets 20 (city) and 25 (hwy). So with a 33 gallon tank you can already get the total mileage that they’re advertising.
Why strap on all of the motors and batteries, and get the same fuel economy you’re already getting with that engine?

It’s double the horsepower and torque with a more usable power delivery.

 

[CUOFFRD]

Near power of the TRX but economy of Pentastar.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

From Detroit Free Press article:
Not everyone is ready to rely solely on battery power.

So Ram Trucks is offering a solution of sorts. Just don’t call it a hybrid, according to the folks at Ram.

The 2025 Ram 1500 Ramcharger is supposed to be the pickup for truck customers who don't want to worry about range issues on longer trips but still like the idea of what an electric vehicle can do.

The Ramcharger combines a 92 kilowatt-hour battery pack with an onboard 130 kilowatt generator powered by a 3.6-liter Pentastar V6, according to the company. The upshot is a targeted 690 miles of range in a truck that promises 663 horsepower and 615 pound-feet of torque while it manages a 0-60 mph time of 4.4 seconds and towing of up 14,000 pounds.

Sales figures across all EV brands, say 95% of car buyers are not ready to rely solely on battery power!

 

[IdahoKTM]

It’s double the horsepower and torque with a more usable power delivery.

Yeah, but it will probably cost twice as much as a shitbox Big Horn.

 

[Eighty]

Yeah, but it will probably cost twice as much as a shitbox Big Horn.

And if you drive it like a TRX then it damn sure won’t get 20 mpg.

 

[The dude]

And if you drive it like a TRX then it damn sure won’t get 20 mpg.

If you drive it like a TRX on your daily commute and plug it in at home you’ll be able to do probably 80 miles on a full charge before needing to run the generator. In my area that’s about $11 in electricity compared to about $30 in gas for the TRX. No replacing the sound of a supercharged V8 though.

 

[RaptorTillNow]

I want to respond to this post but I can't find the puke emoji?

 

[Antonius]

I want to respond to this post but I can't find the puke emoji?

 

[Stefan]

I don't quite get why they want to use the Pentastar V6 for powering the Generator, there are probably more efficient options on their shelves if it's solely for powering a generator.

 

[G5892]

Ramcharger is a great idea and the right step towards electrification until technology catches up. If money is no object, I pick one up before the weekend to handle my daily commute

 

[Torqued]

One thing to remember while towing, the engine will be charging on the downhill and flat. The big horsepower demand is used going uphill or while accelerating.

 

[Torqued]

If I'm calculating this correctly, it costs me $0.35 per mile to drive my TRX and $.03 to drive the ramcharger if I charge at home on off peak. That's alot of money. I would definitely trade as soon as it's out of warranty.

 

[Torqued]

I don't quite get why they want to use the Pentastar V6 for powering the Generator, there are probably more efficient options on their shelves if it's solely for powering a generator.

They should use a 3.0L V8 as the generator engine. The best of both worlds

 

[JD25]

So, if it’s true that the Ramcharger will get the equivalent of 20 mpg, then I don’t see the point. I just looked up the advertised fuel economy of a shitbox Bighorn with the Pentastar engine. It gets 20 (city) and 25 (hwy). So with a 33 gallon tank you can already get the total mileage that they’re advertising.
Why strap on all of the motors and batteries, and get the same fuel economy you’re already getting with that engine?

Does the Bighorn even actually get that kind of mileage? I just sold my Gladiator that never even sniffed the 20s while I had it in spite of it's 22 mpg highway rating. If I hadn't been able to get my TRX, maybe I would have tried one of the Ramchargers when they come out, but not now.

 

[RobR651]

So, if it’s true that the Ramcharger will get the equivalent of 20 mpg, then I don’t see the point. I just looked up the advertised fuel economy of a shitbox Bighorn with the Pentastar engine. It gets 20 (city) and 25 (hwy). So with a 33 gallon tank you can already get the total mileage that they’re advertising.
Why strap on all of the motors and batteries, and get the same fuel economy you’re already getting with that engine?

Shit Box Big Horn with a Pentastar doesn’t make remotely the same numbers, neither does the 5.7

 

[Eighty]

Shit Box Big Horn with a Pentastar doesn’t make remotely the same numbers, neither does the 5.7

Agreed, as far as performance. I was talking about fuel economy. The base Bighorn (Pentastar engine) is advertised at 20/25 mpg, which is obviously "perfect scenario" numbers. And if the equivalent "perfect scenario" fuel economy of the Ramcharger is the same, then it seems odd to go through all this trouble.

Ok, if you're doing "performance stuff" with a Ramcharger, then it's a different story. But the fuel economy won't be the same. I guess that's where it makes sense. It can get good mileage if you're babying the truck, but can also approach TRX performance (albeit, at a major loss of economy).

 

[Jimmy07]

Agreed, as far as performance. I was talking about fuel economy. The base Bighorn (Pentastar engine) is advertised at 20/25 mpg, which is obviously "perfect scenario" numbers. And if the equivalent "perfect scenario" fuel economy of the Ramcharger is the same, then it seems odd to go through all this trouble.

Ok, if you're doing "performance stuff" with a Ramcharger, then it's a different story. But the fuel economy won't be the same. I guess that's where it makes sense. It can get good mileage if you're babying the truck, but can also approach TRX performance (albeit, at a major loss of economy).

You gotta keep in mind that the 20/25 mpg only comes into play if you were to continually run out the full 690 mile range without recharging or refueling. Nobody is going to constantly be doing that. The gas engine doesn’t come into play until the initial 145 mile battery electric only range is depleted. For most owners with their everyday commutes, they’ll recharge at home at some point in that 145 mile range, and possibly never need to use any fuel at all until it comes time for longer road trips.

 

[jashearer]

I don't quite get why they want to use the Pentastar V6 for powering the Generator, there are probably more efficient options on their shelves if it's solely for powering a generator.

I think this is a cost/simplicity/reliability play. Sure using a turbo diesel 3/4 cyl would likely be more efficient, but cost would go up exponentially and reliability from an aftertreatment point of view would be a worry.

Just my $0.02

Jay