RFH Lock now available on TRX trucks

[alexac9]

Stumbled upon this today!

 

[CUOFFRD]

Stumbled upon this today!

Looks a lot like what was posted earlier - https://www.ram-trx.com/threads/rfh-lock-now-available-on-trx-trucks.9525/post-353530

 

[Najeem]

We have already established that you can’t read or comprehend anything you do try to read. There Is probably a dozen comments saying I don’t make a penny doing any of this on here, other forums, pages, groups, messages, texts, emails, or in person (you can actually ask dozens and dozens of people that I have refused to take money from for helping them) I guess you think that people are going to drive from California or anywhere else not within a couple hours of me because I made comments pointing out the flaws in the deterrents that uneducated people like yourself seem to think will somehow do anything. It common sense but nobody seems to have that anymore. “What one of the 4 wires on my pts do I need to used for my killswitch??” Me, “now everyone knows how to steal your vehicle” them “how, I can barely find the switch myself, how are they going to??” Me “because you told them where the wires originated from and thus they just go for the pts plug” and all of this is posted almost daily. You having an issue with someone spending hours a day helping people keep the vehicle they paid for and doing so with zero monetary gain and very rarely a thank you is mind blowing… literally! “Why are you always telling people that its a bad idea to xxxxx” “you’re just trying to sell and IGLA” “you’re forcing it on everyone” blah blah blah. Is there anything else I didn’t touch base on?!? If so I suspect you will let me know with more accusations and whining. You don’t like IGLA, by far the best option out for over 500 makes and models then don’t get one. See how easy thats is…

Now your playing victim?? Nobody forces you to come on here and bash everything so you can promote your product. We all know why you do it!!

 

[IdahoKTM]

Im convinced that once you swear at Seri its game on.

You're spelling her name incorrectly, that's why she won't cooperate with you.

 

[RAMona]

You're spelling her name incorrectly, that's why she won't cooperate with you.

Got me on that and i actually know how to spell it. F her (mine is a him ) and FJB

 

[Nitro]

Stumbled upon this today!

I've moved all discussions related to that TSB here:

RAM TSB: RFHM Updates 7-21-23

Hello everyone, We're happy to share the following Technical Service Bulletin, 08-180-23, regarding a software update to the RHF Module for 2023 models below: Steph Ram Cares

www.ram-trx.com

 

[LDN]

Now your playing victim?? Nobody forces you to come on here and bash everything so you can promote your product. We all know why you do it!!

Hard not to 'play victim' when you are on the receiving end of attacks and accusations. I'm not sure what your beef with this guy is, or why you have an issue with useful security info being posted. @Air’d outSRT has helped me via threads and PM on a couple of occasions and hasn't asked for a single $ in return.
I think that healthy and fact-based discussion on how to keep our trucks secure should be encouraged on here. I can't see how it is any different to the rest of the useful posts like preventative maintenance advice, DIY instructions, or 'how to fix' threads. It may actually be more important as we need to keep this knowledge base growing given the very real and very sad issue of TRX thefts.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

Hard not to 'play victim' when you are on the receiving end of attacks and accusations. I'm not sure what your beef with this guy is, or why you have an issue with useful security info being posted. @Air’d outSRT has helped me via threads and PM on a couple of occasions and hasn't asked for a single $ in return.
I think that healthy and fact-based discussion on how to keep our trucks secure should be encouraged on here. I can't see how it is any different to the rest of the useful posts like preventative maintenance advice, DIY instructions, or 'how to fix' threads. It may actually be more important as we need to keep this knowledge base growing given the very real and very sad issue of TRX thefts.

Thank you

 

[TRXNUT]

Everybody hates on "The IGLA Man" until they need the IGLA man lmfao. Is he blunt, yes. Is he biased to his own product, yes. Does his product work as described, yes. Do other products achieve similar results, maybe. I know my truck is in my driveway still to this day because of his product sooooooooo

 

[Air’d outSRT]

Everybody hates on "The IGLA Man" until they need the IGLA man lmfao. Is he blunt, yes. Is he biased to his own product, yes. Does his product work as described, yes. Do other products achieve similar results, maybe. I know my truck is in my driveway still to this day because of his product sooooooooo

Can you get the same results as an IGLA, kind of but you would need several different things and then hope they work and still only do around half of it. If they did work then I would definitely be recommending them.

 

[RAMona]

Everybody hates on "The IGLA Man" until they need the IGLA man lmfao. Is he blunt, yes. Is he biased to his own product, yes. Does his product work as described, yes. Do other products achieve similar results, maybe. I know my truck is in my driveway still to this day because of his product sooooooooo

I just want him to tell all of us what HIS ideas are for theft prevention and just take the necessary time to read what Air’d and others are ACTUALLY saying. It just seems like he is a keyboard warrior. I for one am done playing.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

I just want him to tell all of us what HIS ideas are for theft prevention and just take the necessary time to read what Air’d and others are ACTUALLY saying. It just seems like he is a keyboard warrior. I for one am done playing.

He doesn’t have a clue what security or anti theft is. Probably mad his mom took her car back. I guess it secure now

 

[wayland1985]

I’ve been out of the loop: just enjoying the truck… so forgive my lack of knowledge here…

I’ve been on the fence about an IGLA for months now. I ended up opting against it for the time being for a few reasons:

1: I didn’t love the idea of splicing into factory wiring before I knew if the truck was free of issues.

2: I don’t love the idea of a small group of installers being the only people who know where a tiny device is hiding in the truck: I get the security aspect, but don’t like the fact that if it does somehow fail or go on the fritz that I can’t find it.

3: I don’t love that most installers refuse to set up the app or fobs. The pin piece is a bit annoying, and long term: I don’t know how much I trust the buttons on a Ram vehicle to hold up with repeated daily mashing.

4: The nearest installer is 4 hours away.

This dealer lock option seems tempting: but I’m hearing downsides?

If I ever lose my keys, I’d need a new hub? Is that the only downside?

How much is a new fob on average? How about the Hub?

How much, if any, do dealers charge for this update?

What other means of theft are still open if one were to use this TSB?

How does the hub fry? How would IGLA be any better if they self destruct anyways?

Genuinely curious…

And in regards to alfaobd: does it also have “security” options that the Tazer has tried implementing?

 

[phi399]

Just visited Air’d outSRT for an IGLA and Compustar. Amazing guy who knows his stuff. When I was there, he was answering texts from people on this forum that never spent a dollar with him. One of the reasons I don't get the hate. A majority of people don't install the product with him and he gets them to a dealer he trusts.

Install was perfect. He integrated the Compustar and IGLA. I am using the fob, proximity lock/unlock on the Compustar, and leaving the factory fob in the truck. It is actually easier than without it. Walk to the truck it unlocks, jump in hit run, drive off, stop, get out, and the truck locks/arms. He texted me to make sure I got back home and everything was fine and then a few days later to make sure I didn't have any questions. Also, fixed the neutral pull so it can not be used.

I was definitely not an IGLA fan or hater but after installing it with the Compustar. I really believe it is one of the best systems for our trucks and that does not bash any of the other options.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

I’ve been out of the loop: just enjoying the truck… so forgive my lack of knowledge here…

I’ve been on the fence about an IGLA for months now. I ended up opting against it for the time being for a few reasons:

1: I didn’t love the idea of splicing into factory wiring before I knew if the truck was free of issues.

2: I don’t love the idea of a small group of installers being the only people who know where a tiny device is hiding in the truck: I get the security aspect, but don’t like the fact that if it does somehow fail or go on the fritz that I can’t find it.

3: I don’t love that most installers refuse to set up the app or fobs. The pin piece is a bit annoying, and long term: I don’t know how much I trust the buttons on a Ram vehicle to hold up with repeated daily mashing.

4: The nearest installer is 4 hours away.

This dealer lock option seems tempting: but I’m hearing downsides?

If I ever lose my keys, I’d need a new hub? Is that the only downside?

How much is a new fob on average? How about the Hub?

How much, if any, do dealers charge for this update?

What other means of theft are still open if one were to use this TSB?

How does the hub fry? How would IGLA be any better if they self destruct anyways?

Genuinely curious…

And in regards to alfaobd: does it also have “security” options that the Tazer has tried implementing?

I’ve been out of the loop: just enjoying the truck… so forgive my lack of knowledge here…

I’ve been on the fence about an IGLA for months now. I ended up opting against it for the time being for a few reasons:

1: I didn’t love the idea of splicing into factory wiring before I knew if the truck was free of issues.

*most vehicles are just 4-7 wires normally and they are “T”’d into the wire unlike every other option that cuts the circuit completely.

2: I don’t love the idea of a small group of installers being the only people who know where a tiny device is hiding in the truck: I get the security aspect, but don’t like the fact that if it does somehow fail or go on the fritz that I can’t find it.

*Almost all installers will go to you and fix the issue if its an issue from the installation. If (have never seen one go bad, heard of one recently but it just… stopped working and then started to again after power was pulled and then put back to it. it works or it doesn’t) IGLA sits in the background and intercepts the start algorithm and sends an incorrect one until you put the pin in or use the fob to authorize it (or app if YOU decide to pair it, more on that in a second) Hypothetically, if IGLA did cause an issue you can just turn it off temporarily or completely. Very simple to do. IGLA would be 100% useless if we told people where they are so that will not happen.

3: I don’t love that most installers refuse to set up the app or fobs. The pin piece is a bit annoying, and long term: I don’t know how much I trust the buttons on a Ram vehicle to hold up with repeated daily mashing.

*All installers setup the fobs, they come pre paired, some probably don’t know that like me at the beginning and was pairing them while flashing and setting them up. I assure you they come pre paired and if for some reason its not, it takes 30 seconds to a minute to pair them. Same for the app. We collectively chose to not pair the app only because of the lack of security with it and it’s incorrect use. If someone really wants it paired then again, takes less than a minute and instructions are very easily found. I can even screenshot it for you BUT I/we will not be held responsible for a stolen vehicle. As for the buttons possibly going out and pin can’t be entered, there is an emergency pin procedure with a 4 number code that comes with each IGLA and needs to be scratched off to see it, again, easy to do.

4: The nearest installer is 4 hours away.

*I am working on getting more shops up and running, this all is still very new to the US. We will get there.

This dealer lock option seems tempting: but I’m hearing downsides?

If I ever lose my keys, I’d need a new hub? Is that the only downside?

*Hub and fobs yes

How much is a new fob on average? How about the Hub?

*On an srt/trackhawk it was $2,200 for hub, programming and 3 new fobs last I seen. Trx is more involved and the pin used to “install” it is only good for 30 seconds from what I have been hearing. Could have changed

How much, if any, do dealers charge for this update?

*updates are supposed to be free to customers

What other means of theft are still open if one were to use this TSB?

*Relay/clone theft, push, pull, put another rf hub in, vin code ect and can even swap one in with a fob programmed to it already to alleviate the unnecessary time to program one in after

How does the hub fry? How would IGLA be any better if they self destruct anyways?

*IGLA doesn’t self destruct, have never seen one go out, like I said, it works or it doesn’t and you would know immediately, either it will authorize or it won’t. Hubs fry just to fry or something on that is in that line/circuit like a Tazer (happens more than you think with one)

Genuinely curious…

And in regards to alfaobd: does it also have “security” options that the Tazer has tried implementing?

* unfortunately no

 

[RAMona]

I’ve been out of the loop: just enjoying the truck… so forgive my lack of knowledge here…

I’ve been on the fence about an IGLA for months now. I ended up opting against it for the time being for a few reasons:

1: I didn’t love the idea of splicing into factory wiring before I knew if the truck was free of issues.

2: I don’t love the idea of a small group of installers being the only people who know where a tiny device is hiding in the truck: I get the security aspect, but don’t like the fact that if it does somehow fail or go on the fritz that I can’t find it.

3: I don’t love that most installers refuse to set up the app or fobs. The pin piece is a bit annoying, and long term: I don’t know how much I trust the buttons on a Ram vehicle to hold up with repeated daily mashing.

4: The nearest installer is 4 hours away.

This dealer lock option seems tempting: but I’m hearing downsides?

If I ever lose my keys, I’d need a new hub? Is that the only downside?

How much is a new fob on average? How about the Hub?

How much, if any, do dealers charge for this update?

What other means of theft are still open if one were to use this TSB?

How does the hub fry? How would IGLA be any better if they self destruct anyways?

Genuinely curious…

And in regards to alfaobd: does it also have “security” options that the Tazer has tried implementing?

Just visited Air’d outSRT for an IGLA and Compustar. Amazing guy who knows his stuff. When I was there, he was answering texts from people on this forum that never spent a dollar with him. One of the reasons I don't get the hate. A majority of people don't install the product with him and he gets them to a dealer he trusts.

Install was perfect. He integrated the Compustar and IGLA. I am using the fob, proximity lock/unlock on the Compustar, and leaving the factory fob in the truck. It is actually easier than without it. Walk to the truck it unlocks, jump in hit run, drive off, stop, get out, and the truck locks/arms. He texted me to make sure I got back home and everything was fine and then a few days later to make sure I didn't have any questions. Also, fixed the neutral pull so it can not be used.

I was definitely not an IGLA fan or hater but after installing it with the Compustar. I really believe it is one of the best systems for our trucks and that does not bash any of the other options.

I wish i could have had Air’d do my instal because it sounds like you really have things set up nicely. Sadly i had hoped for a better outcome and while the igla seems to be working (thanks mostly to Air’d) there are many other issues and problems ive been left with. Very long story.
Congratulations on your system!

 

[Air’d outSRT]

Just visited Air’d outSRT for an IGLA and Compustar. Amazing guy who knows his stuff. When I was there, he was answering texts from people on this forum that never spent a dollar with him. One of the reasons I don't get the hate. A majority of people don't install the product with him and he gets them to a dealer he trusts.

Install was perfect. He integrated the Compustar and IGLA. I am using the fob, proximity lock/unlock on the Compustar, and leaving the factory fob in the truck. It is actually easier than without it. Walk to the truck it unlocks, jump in hit run, drive off, stop, get out, and the truck locks/arms. He texted me to make sure I got back home and everything was fine and then a few days later to make sure I didn't have any questions. Also, fixed the neutral pull so it can not be used.

I was definitely not an IGLA fan or hater but after installing it with the Compustar. I really believe it is one of the best systems for our trucks and that does not bash any of the other options.

Man, I didn’t even see this comment, obviously you know how hectic my days are . Thank you for the post, most think I’m an ass but thats just the New York Italian in me . It was great to talk with you and get your security setup so you have some peace of mind. Again, do not hesitate to contact me for any and all concerns.

 

[JBTRXNJ]

My Ravelco is just as effective.

I lose auto start, yes, but I don’t use it so I’m not missing anything there.

The argument about newer tech doesn’t really hold water, especially not in this group, otherwise everyone would be clamoring for an EV.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

My Ravelco is just as effective.

I lose auto start, yes, but I don’t use it so I’m not missing anything there.

The argument about newer tech doesn’t really hold water, especially not in this group, otherwise everyone would be clamoring for an EV.

Effective sure, practical no. Anyone with a 1/4 of a brain can reverse the wiring in just a couple minutes. If there is no alarm to worry about and you are not there or sleeping then that couple of minutes means nothing to them. Its going to get to the point where these vehicles are going to be getting harder to just take so they are going to regroup and change tactics, carjackings, ignoring the making keys with IGLA and rf hub locks so more and more clone/relay thefts, bypassing the ravelco ect. Once they start getting cocky and comfortable, its going to get even crazier

 

[Exec_TRX]

Effective sure, practical no. Anyone with a 1/4 of a brain can reverse the wiring in just a couple minutes. If there is no alarm to worry about and you are not there or sleeping then that couple of minutes means nothing to them. Its going to get to the point where these vehicles are going to be getting harder to just take so they are going to regroup and change tactics, carjackings, ignoring the making keys with IGLA and rf hub locks so more and more clone/relay thefts, bypassing the ravelco ect. Once they start getting cocky and comfortable, its going to get even crazier

You know, it’s great you’re on here with the advice you provide.

But IGLA isn’t the only device that works, and isn’t the ONLY solution.

I have had ravelco in 6+ cars, including the four I own now amongst other things such as compustar systems. Used to be LE, and have seen ravelco first hand stop someone who attempted exactly what you are saying, one individual who was caught was a two time felon that used to be a locksmith with a past electrical background.

Ravelco is installed differently in each car, each installer uses different wires, methods, anti tampering methods etc. I’m not going to debate this, but I came here to say that pushing and shitting on one solution, doesn’t make the other any more credible. Let people make their choices. I could give a shit less about remote start, and wanted the control ability to be my choice, with something that is a physical control device (plug). Let folks make their choice. There’s a lot of threads that I see people bash you and it’s not necessary, and neither is saying my choice is better than yours. It’s just that, a decision based on their needs and risk threshold. It’s like I always suggest, both and the compustar. The combo of either a ravelco or IGLA and a compustar system is perfect. The choice of which, leave it up to them.