Another engine failure

[Claasicdrive]

General rule of thumb with this is, don't buy 3rd party extended warranties. They're often simply a waste of money.

OP did save 5k or about 25% of the repair for having extended warranty tho. Surprised OP's auto insurance didnt cover the rental tho. Most policies do. roughly 90 days @ $25 per day that's about $2500
I forgot but does motor replacement show on carfax? That might hurt OP in reselling the truck

 

[Ram23SPG]

Figured I would post this so it’s documented for everyone to read. Sorry for the long post. Learn from my failures.

2022 Ram TRX with 77,000 miles. All maintenance done by me per the owners manual recommendations. Minus the oil, I do oils and filter changes at 5000 miles. To hell with the oil life counter.

1 December 2025 I was sitting in the truck in a parking lot at idle. Was at idle maybe 10 minutes if it matters. The truck started shaking and I could see smoke pouring out the back of the truck. I shut the truck down and called the local Stealership for help. The truck was towed to the stealer and I waited for them to get back to me. Two days later I got the call, they managed to get the truck running and it was knocking really bad. Suspected motor damage. I signed authorization for them to tear the motor down to find root cause of the failure. A week later I get another call. Number 7 injector failed causing a hydrolock and a subsequent bent rod. Needed a new engine. Great right, covered under the extended Warranty. Waited a couple weeks to get word back from the Warranty company so repairs could start. Surprise, A component that is not covered under warranty caused the damage to the covered components. Claim denied.

In the warranty it states that the factory installed supercharger and intake system are covered. In my point of view that contains the fuel injector. Maybe not the electrical leading up to them but the injectors should be covered.

Fun times. I went ahead and authorized the Stealership to start repairs so they could order me an engine. At the same time I had them start a claim with Ram Cares to help fund the repairs.

5 January 2026, word came back that Ram Cares was going to do a 50/50 split on the cost of repairs. Things are moving along, I’m good with paying 50 percent for now. Engine was ordered and came in a couple weeks later, pretty quick as far as I was concerned.

4 February I got a text from the Stealership asking for receipts for all my oil changes. They reopened this shit for some reason. No problem I do my own maintenance and get supplies thru my Advanced Auto account. Made some calls and a few hours later I emailed the Stealership a full transcript of all parts I’ve bought since I bought the truck in 2023. Problem solved, let’s get me back in my truck. Nope the split changed.

4 March, It’s now 70/30 split with me paying for most of a problem caused by Ram when this thing was built. Same thing with Ram Cares, the injector caused the damage so the truck is further out of warranty than they thought. To make things worst, they stopped working on the truck back in February when the case was reopened.

It is now 31 March and my truck is still at the Stealership. To add a bit to the pain. I have had a loaner car from the Stealership since December at $25 a day. I have grown to hate a Jeep, may have to sell my Wrangler. On the bright side, I was told today that my truck will be done this week. I’m not holding my breath.

At the advice of a random lawyer I have contacted the Attorney General in the area where I bought the truck and waged a complaint against the Stealership in that sold me the truck and the after market Warranty company. I have yet to obtain a lawyer to deal with the Stealership that has my truck. I figured I would wait until after I got the truck back and have them fix everything they did wrong during the repair.

So as far as the Stealership that has my truck. I shut the truck off as soon as I saw smoke and never tried to crank it again.there were no knocking or odd noises coming from the motor at that point. The damage to the motor was most certainly caused by their attempt to get the truck running. Smoke from the exhaust is caused by fuel, oil, or a blown head gasket. All of which are reasons screaming, do not attempt to start the truck. The delays for repairs was absolutely their fault, I authorized them to repair the truck at the very start and have the email to prove it. Upwards of $15,000 out of pocket to get my truck back after everything is settled. All because of a failed fuel injector and an incompetent Stealership. Oh, I also hate Maryland now.

Anything else that the community thinks I should be doing?

Dang sorry to hear about the truck being down and that it’s taken so long to resolve! Did they indicate what preventative maintenance can be done moving forward to insure the fuel injector doesn’t fail again?

 

[JPV96]

Dang sorry to hear about the truck being down and that it’s taken so long to resolve! Did they indicate what preventative maintenance can be done moving forward to insure the fuel injector doesn’t fail again?

Go to the previous page in this posts and read #58 and #60. It sums up the information.

 

[Partymn]

Wanted to clear up a couple things.
The service advisor was told exactly what happened to the truck. I have no way of knowing if the tech was given this information. I was shocked when I was told they tried to start the truck with no other troubleshooting.

If I had thought for 1 second that the extended warranty would be denied, I would have had my truck transported the 4.5 hours back to my house. I could have put a much better short block in the truck a lot faster than the 4 months and a day this took.

It was a stuck open injector that caused the failure and the denied warranty. I still say that the injector is covered under the supercharged vehicle clause of the warranty. That is for the lawyer to argue now.

The extended warranty did nothing for me at all. Ram Cares stepped in and picked up 30% of the cost. The dealership, for whatever reason, didn’t charge me for the loaner car like they initially said they would.

I’ve had the truck back for 5 days and put almost 800 miles on it. So far I have not noticed anything odd about the new engine. However, it’s still being broken in so I have not put it in boost. Guess I will put it to the test after the first oil change.

 

[Dudebro]

Wanted to clear up a couple things.
The service advisor was told exactly what happened to the truck. I have no way of knowing if the tech was given this information. I was shocked when I was told they tried to start the truck with no other troubleshooting.

If I had thought for 1 second that the extended warranty would be denied, I would have had my truck transported the 4.5 hours back to my house. I could have put a much better short block in the truck a lot faster than the 4 months and a day this took.

It was a stuck open injector that caused the failure and the denied warranty. I still say that the injector is covered under the supercharged vehicle clause of the warranty. That is for the lawyer to argue now.

The extended warranty did nothing for me at all. Ram Cares stepped in and picked up 30% of the cost. The dealership, for whatever reason, didn’t charge me for the loaner car like they initially said they would.

I’ve had the truck back for 5 days and put almost 800 miles on it. So far I have not noticed anything odd about the new engine. However, it’s still being broken in so I have not put it in boost. Guess I will put it to the test after the first oil change.

No argument intended but why would injectors be part of the supercharged vehicle clause? Every gas vehicle has injectors and I don't see how having a supercharger would change things.

 

[MurderedCat]

OP did save 5k or about 25% of the repair for having extended warranty tho. Surprised OP's auto insurance didnt cover the rental tho. Most policies do. roughly 90 days @ $25 per day that's about $2500
I forgot but does motor replacement show on carfax? That might hurt OP in reselling the truck

Extended warranty didn’t do that, ram cares good willed a portion of it. Warranty did absolutely nothing.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

Wanted to clear up a couple things.
The service advisor was told exactly what happened to the truck. I have no way of knowing if the tech was given this information. I was shocked when I was told they tried to start the truck with no other troubleshooting.

If I had thought for 1 second that the extended warranty would be denied, I would have had my truck transported the 4.5 hours back to my house. I could have put a much better short block in the truck a lot faster than the 4 months and a day this took.

It was a stuck open injector that caused the failure and the denied warranty. I still say that the injector is covered under the supercharged vehicle clause of the warranty. That is for the lawyer to argue now.

The extended warranty did nothing for me at all. Ram Cares stepped in and picked up 30% of the cost. The dealership, for whatever reason, didn’t charge me for the loaner car like they initially said they would.

I’ve had the truck back for 5 days and put almost 800 miles on it. So far I have not noticed anything odd about the new engine. However, it’s still being broken in so I have not put it in boost. Guess I will put it to the test after the first oil change.

The fucked up part is the tech and dealership likely KNOW they trashed your engine, trying to start it after the injector filled the cylinder with gas.....and they just let you eat it. ZERO integrity anymore.

 

[Partymn]

No argument intended but why would injectors be part of the supercharged vehicle clause? Every gas vehicle has injectors and I don't see how having a supercharger would change things.

For the same reason I suspect they are covered for diesel engines, forced induction. The supercharger is covered, same for intake. Why not the injectors.

 

[Partymn]

The fucked up part is the tech and dealership likely KNOW they trashed your engine, trying to start it after the injector filled the cylinder with gas.....and they just let you eat it. ZERO integrity anymore.

You are correct. That fight is ongoing.

 

[Dudebro]

For the same reason I suspect they are covered for diesel engines, forced induction. The supercharger is covered, same for intake. Why not the injectors.

Diesel and gas injectors are completely different. A hellcat injector runs around 80 psi while a cummins injector operates at 25k+ psi. Induction has nothing to do with the injector differences, it has to do with the combustion method. They are covered on diesels because they are extremely high pressure and exposed to extreme heat, beyond the fact they are way more expensive and have a higher failure rate.

 

[Jester]

The finance departments always push the BS aftermarket warranties and they have not served me well when I sell a vehicle and try to reclaim the credit or have had to use. The Service department will tell you they suck.

I always go to Ziegler for the Mopar extended warranty, but I thought I saw Granger advertising on here for similar.

Would the Mopar extended warranty cover this scenario?

What if I had headers, incognito and S&B intake no tune? I think I know the answer.

I’m at 40k miles on my 22 and just had a radiator go. Should I change injectors as a maintenance item or is it just bad gas/luck no matter how old the injector. Sorry you are dealing with this. I’d hammer the shit out of the dealership for grenading instead of troubleshooting. I mean, why not just get in it, fire it up, and rev the shit out of it to see what’s wrong with it!?!

I’m planning on getting a 27 and if finance has allow, I wanted to keep my 22, but I also see a decent amount of engine failures, and I have a buddy who spun a bearing at 40,000 miles on his 21. I don’t know whether to sell/trade in the 22 or hang onto it because I love the truck due to the amount of engine failures, you hear about.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

The finance departments always push the BS aftermarket warranties and they have not served me well when I sell a vehicle and try to reclaim the credit or have had to use. The Service department will tell you they suck.

I always go to Ziegler for the Mopar extended warranty, but I thought I saw Granger advertising on here for similar.

Would the Mopar extended warranty cover this scenario?

What if I had headers, incognito and S&B intake no tune? I think I know the answer.

I’m at 40k miles on my 22 and just had a radiator go. Should I change injectors as a maintenance item or is it just bad gas/luck no matter how old the injector. Sorry you are dealing with this. I’d hammer the shit out of the dealership for grenading instead of troubleshooting. I mean, why not just get in it, fire it up, and rev the shit out of it to see what’s wrong with it!?!

I’m planning on getting a 27 and if finance has allow, I wanted to keep my 22, but I also see a decent amount of engine failures, and I have a buddy who spun a bearing at 40,000 miles on his 21. I don’t know whether to sell/trade in the 22 or hang onto it because I love the truck due to the amount of engine failures, you hear about.

Warranty not covering an injector failure / resulting damage is strange. Luckily its not super common.

"What if I had headers, incognito and S&B intake no tune? I think I know the answer."
Short answer is, it depends on your dealer and the type of failure.
The ECM logs blower pressures, so the incognito pulley (even if removed) could out you.
Burnt valve due to a header leak = you.
S&B intake: you throw a rod = you could fight that one.
S&B intake: dirt and debris in the blower = you.

 

[BusaDave]

The finance departments always push the BS aftermarket warranties and they have not served me well when I sell a vehicle and try to reclaim the credit or have had to use. The Service department will tell you they suck.

I always go to Ziegler for the Mopar extended warranty, but I thought I saw Granger advertising on here for similar.

Would the Mopar extended warranty cover this scenario?

What if I had headers, incognito and S&B intake no tune? I think I know the answer.

I’m at 40k miles on my 22 and just had a radiator go. Should I change injectors as a maintenance item or is it just bad gas/luck no matter how old the injector. Sorry you are dealing with this. I’d hammer the shit out of the dealership for grenading instead of troubleshooting. I mean, why not just get in it, fire it up, and rev the shit out of it to see what’s wrong with it!?!

I’m planning on getting a 27 and if finance has allow, I wanted to keep my 22, but I also see a decent amount of engine failures, and I have a buddy who spun a bearing at 40,000 miles on his 21. I don’t know whether to sell/trade in the 22 or hang onto it because I love the truck due to the amount of engine failures, you hear about.

Actually, it is very simple. All manufactures are this way.

If a non-warrantied part causes a failure of a warranted part, it is on the vehicle owner period. So, in the end this is the way it will play out..... If Ram, GM, Ford, you name it decides that whatever you did, installed or did not do caused the failure then it is on you. You can argue until you are blue in the face however, it will be on you to have your own expert along with supporting engineering data to Prove Otherwise and this may involve possible litigation (discovery i.e. interrogatories, document/record requests etc.) unfortunately will be required.

Meaning a Whole Lot More $$$$$'s for you to prove their resources wrong. All manufactures know this so what may be something simple to you and me may not be or, so you are being told. In this area the manufacturers hold almost all of the cards. Not what you wanted to hear but unfortunately this is the way it is.

 

[Jester]

Don’t disagree on the aftermarket parts. It’s a risk I took and lean on the Mopar extended warranty for things like the radiator or the POS Uconnect 5 radio that has had non stop problems and has been replaced at least once.

Thoughts on proactive injector replacement?

 

[BusaDave]

Don’t disagree on the aftermarket parts. It’s a risk I took and lean on the Mopar extended warranty for things like the radiator or the POS Uconnect 5 radio that has had non stop problems and has been replaced at least once.

Thoughts on proactive injector replacement?

In the injector----just depends on your level of concern. Personally, I would do it while it was being worked on. May save some $$$$'s by doing it that way.

 

[enve46]

In the injector----just depends on your level of concern. Personally, I would do it while it was being worked on. May save some $$$$'s by doing it that way.

That’s my plan, I’m about to do plugs so will get injectors done at same time, possibly just do lower thermostat and tune since replacing most of that stuff anyway