Need input from my fellow members...my Hummer EV arrived, what would you do?

[quikag]

Cool, enjoy the Hummer! Looking forward to mine this summer (hopefully!). I'm definitely planning on keeping the TRX though.

 

[OZ_TRX]

That lambo has a helluva soul

Indeed it does! Lol I should have specified real “truck”

 

[SGA_TRX]

Thank you ALL! The lambo definitely has a soul and one of the best sports cars I've owned up to date, ie. R8, 911s, M5, M6, AMG..etc. The Hummer will satisfy my needs for now until the itch for another TRX returns. Just drove her home from the dealership and with a full charge, it indicates 340 mile, we'll see...lol.

 

[SGA_TRX]

Cool, enjoy the Hummer! Looking forward to mine this summer (hopefully!). I'm definitely planning on keeping the TRX though.

Good luck with the wait, hopefully it arrives soon, you'll love it! In the mean time, enjoy the TRX in good health!

 

[AuHornet]

SGA TRX - please keep us posted on how you like the Hummer. I've been a Raptor guy for 11 years (never should have given up my Rousch Super Charged 2012) but just purchased a 2023 TRX as I just couldn't take the V6 anymore and was tired of waiting on the Raptor R. I also preordered the Hummer and have received correspondence from GM that I should expect it late 2023/early 2024 (but not holding out much hope). I've had my TRX for 45 days and absolutely love it but like you very intrigued by the Hummer so will be curious as to how you like it as you drive it more. Thanks and enjoy!

 

[SGA_TRX]

@AuHornet, since I'm still in the honeymoon phase with the Hummer, it's been a blast to drive! The WTF mode can launch this 9000 lb beast from 0-60 in 3 seconds under right condition is absolutely mind blowing! I drove back from the dealership today and launched it twice, had lunch and took a long drive home and only used about 5% of its total charge. The ride is supple with the air suspension, I'd say softer than the TRX in comfort mode and the 4 wheel steering makes it very nimble and easy to drive in town. I still have to get used to the silence because it's hard for my brain to process speed when there are no external cues anymore. It accelerates so hard and fast at any street speed, and before you realize it, you're 30-40 MPH over the legal limit...lol. Being able to drive with the top off to enjoy the sun and breeze is just icing on the cake! My electrician is charging me $200 to set up the level 2 charger that comes with the Hummer so it's going to be great not to have to visit the gas station 5-6x monthly.

 

[AuHornet]

@AuHornet, since I'm still in the honeymoon phase with the Hummer, it's been a blast to drive! The WTF mode can launch this 9000 lb beast from 0-60 in 3 seconds under right condition is absolutely mind blowing! I drove back from the dealership today and launched it twice, had lunch and took a long drive home and only used about 5% of its total charge. The ride is supple with the air suspension, I'd say softer than the TRX in comfort mode and the 4 wheel steering makes it very nimble and easy to drive in town. I still have to get used to the silence because it's hard for my brain to process speed when there are no external cues anymore. It accelerates so hard and fast at any street speed, and before you realize it, you're 30-40 MPH over the legal limit...lol. Being able to drive with the top off to enjoy the sun and breeze is just icing on the cake! My electrician is charging me $200 to set up the level 2 charger that comes with the Hummer so it's going to be great not to have to visit the gas station 5-6x monthly.

Appreciate the feedback and all the things you described are why I am so intrigued. Apprehensive about not hearing the roar of the V8 but that speed and torque (along with that killer removable roof) definitely has my attention! I've been amazed how much smoother the TRX ride has been vs my 2020 Raptor so the fact that your loving the Hummer ride is good to know! Thanks for the feedback and look forward to hearing more - enjoy!

 

[Lee#144]

@AuHornet, since I'm still in the honeymoon phase with the Hummer, it's been a blast to drive! The WTF mode can launch this 9000 lb beast from 0-60 in 3 seconds under right condition is absolutely mind blowing! I drove back from the dealership today and launched it twice, had lunch and took a long drive home and only used about 5% of its total charge. The ride is supple with the air suspension, I'd say softer than the TRX in comfort mode and the 4 wheel steering makes it very nimble and easy to drive in town. I still have to get used to the silence because it's hard for my brain to process speed when there are no external cues anymore. It accelerates so hard and fast at any street speed, and before you realize it, you're 30-40 MPH over the legal limit...lol. Being able to drive with the top off to enjoy the sun and breeze is just icing on the cake! My electrician is charging me $200 to set up the level 2 charger that comes with the Hummer so it's going to be great not to have to visit the gas station 5-6x monthly.

What's the size difference between the two? Does the Hummer fit in the garage better?

 

[SGA_TRX]

In regular mode, the Hummer is about an inch lower, but in offroad or extraction mode, it can be 6 inches higher. Width wise they're about the same but the TRX has bigger interior all around.

 

[RedEyeTRX]

IMO The Hummer is like all the EVs....a toy that is virtually useless in the real world or unless you limit yourself to short trips. Without access to a "fast charger" some people were reporting 115V recharge times of 3-4 days !!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you take it out on a 4-5 days trail run, make sure you pack in plenty of gasoline and tow a 24kW generator ! Cheers.

 

[Exec_TRX]

I quite like the hummer. Looks cool. Would have been great with a 7.3L diesel or a Detroit diesel block with Allison transmission. The OG Hummers are still sought after to this day, for a reason.

As it stands today, it’s incredibly shit. I drove it, once the initial “this is cool” wore off, it was just a silent shit box, that needs charging in 2 days. Incredibly heavy also.

Keep the Trx man.

 

[BlueTRX]

The Hummer is at least an EV with some personality. Makes us think the owner enjoys style and cares to be different to some degree. Speed and all the nerdy tech is to distract from the inevitable which is certain boredom though.

Quickly draining battery alao must be tiring. Yes the TRX makes us live at gas stations but filling up on gas is quick and one can go on a trip just by picking up the keys and his wallet.
No need to plan stops, hope stops have working charging stations and worse, decent charging speed or you can risk ruining days of your vacation.

Maybe as newer models come out with different colors, different tires and excite us a bit hopefully.

 

[The dude]

IMO The Hummer is like all the EVs....a toy that is virtually useless in the real world or unless you limit yourself to short trips. Without access to a "fast charger" some people were reporting 115V recharge times of 3-4 days !!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you take it out on a 4-5 days trail run, make sure you pack in plenty of gasoline and tow a 24kW generator ! Cheers.

Charging 0-100% on a normal wall outlet would take a bit over six days. You’d be an idiot though to buy an EV as inefficient as the Hummer with this huge battery pack and not spend $500 on a home charger. That reduces a full 100% charge to about 20ish hours with an average charger. Still a long time but enough to cover a 150 mile daily commute without much trouble.

 

[SGA_TRX]

Just got the level 2 home charger installed for $200, and it's charging while I work from home. Different strokes for different folks, never thought I'd end up with an EV, but the Hummer is probably the funnest one you can buy at the moment. Like I said, I have other cars to keep me satisfied, and will likely end up with the last year model TRX with the HC engine at some point.

 

[Exec_TRX]

The Hummer is at least an EV with some personality. Makes us think the owner enjoys style and cares to be different to some degree. Speed and all the nerdy tech is to distract from the inevitable which is certain boredom though.

Quickly draining battery alao must be tiring. Yes the TRX makes us live at gas stations but filling up on gas is quick and one can go on a trip just by picking up the keys and his wallet.
No need to plan stops, hope stops have working charging stations and worse, decent charging speed or you can risk ruining days of your vacation.

Maybe as newer models come out with different colors, different tires and excite us a bit hopefully.

Yep, not to mention with nationwide average KWH cost, its a $100+ charge from low to 100% with its massive 212.7kwh battery. Its actually less efficient than the TRX, if you include the natural battery degradation over time, and environmental degradation due to temp, while becoming a slave to chargers vs availability of gas stations.

Gas prices fluctuate, energy generally takes much longer to change, so i dont see this as a positive return on investment. Valero last weekend had 40c off per gallon up to 3 times with their 100 days to summer valero pay program, and you can always save 10-20c per gallon on gas with various brands. How many times does your energy company give you a "deal" for daily rate...

I'm good. But enjoy it.

 

[quikag]

Yep, not to mention with nationwide average KWH cost, its a $100+ charge from low to 100% with its massive 212.7kwh battery. Its actually less efficient than the TRX, if you include the natural battery degradation over time, and environmental degradation due to temp, while becoming a slave to chargers vs availability of gas stations.

Gas prices fluctuate, energy generally takes much longer to change, so i dont see this as a positive return on investment. Valero last weekend had 40c off per gallon up to 3 times with their 100 days to summer valero pay program, and you can always save 10-20c per gallon on gas with various brands. How many times does your energy company give you a "deal" for daily rate...

I'm good. But enjoy it.

You're way off on your price. Even at a crazy 30 cents/kilowatt (I pay 6 cents/kw on a 5 year fixed rate contract here in TX), it's going to be $60. I'll be paying less than $10 to charge my Hummer SUV from low % to 100%. Again, not selling my TRX, but EV's will money out in the long run all things considered (depreciation notwithstanding as that's an X factor). Battery degradation is a very minor to non-existent issue nowadays with good batteries.

 

[Exec_TRX]

You're way off on your price. Even at a crazy 30 cents/kilowatt (I pay 6 cents/kw on a 5 year fixed rate contract here in TX), it's going to be $60. I'll be paying less than $10 to charge my Hummer SUV from low % to 100%. Again, not selling my TRX, but EV's will money out in the long run all things considered (depreciation notwithstanding as that's an X factor). Battery degradation is a very minor to non-existent issue nowadays with good batteries.

No, that’s the highest average price in the us. 0.43c per KWH, which is what I priced it at in my comment. CA and Hawaii specifically, where most of these will be purchased given the price and income, plus the desire of EV. Sure in most cases it’ll be cheaper.

Battery degradation is a problem. I personally have seen fully charged F150 lightnings, parked outside in over 110 degree heat, and subsequently at 10 below zero, with 5-20% loss subsequently the next morning/day. There’s tons of reports on this, as well as charging speed in these temp ranges becomes slowed. Tesla’s run their cooling system continuously in heat to keep the batteries cool, dropping range. There has been countless articles of the Rivians loosing 30-60miles daily at 100 degree heat.

Battery technology needs to improve at the end of the day. I had hoped graphene battery tech would be quicker to market, but it appears not stable enough for mass production. I’m not a buyer personally, and people on both sides say it both ways, but just saying that in extreme cases, both the energy costs and temps, current tech is less than stellar.

 

[quikag]

No, that’s the highest average price in the us. 0.43c per KWH, which is what I priced it at in my comment. CA and Hawaii specifically, where most of these will be purchased given the price and income, plus the desire of EV. Sure in most cases it’ll be cheaper.

Battery degradation is a problem. I personally have seen fully charged F150 lightnings, parked outside in over 110 degree heat, and subsequently at 10 below zero, with 5-20% loss subsequently the next morning/day. There’s tons of reports on this, as well as charging speed in these temp ranges becomes slowed. Tesla’s run their cooling system continuously in heat to keep the batteries cool, dropping range. There has been countless articles of the Rivians loosing 30-60miles daily at 100 degree heat.

Battery technology needs to improve at the end of the day. I had hoped graphene battery tech would be quicker to market, but it appears not stable enough for mass production. I’m not a buyer personally, and people on both sides say it both ways, but just saying that in extreme cases, both the energy costs and temps, current tech is less than stellar.

Okay, but that is using extreme cases, as you also say. I had a Lightning for a few months and it was good. At most 1% or so a day of battery loss just sitting. They are good on minimal phantom losses. My wife's Tesla Model Y will lose battery sitting if we have sentry camera mode and cabin overheat protection on because obviously those lose energy. Turning that stuff off if the car is going to sit a week at an airport or whatever, it uses basically zero battery. Also, literally costs us a few bucks to charge the battery at home with my 6 cent/kw plan. Then, I just put $114 for 29 gallons of premium into my TRX two days ago.

Again, people need to evaluate their individual use cases and decide on their purchases. Has been that way since the beginning of time.

The Hummer is cool and I'm excited about mine. Doubt I'll keep it forever and I'm not going to sell the TRX. But, I do realize EV technology is going to get much better down the road. A plethora of chargers at reasonable pricing, 10-15 minute charge times at convenient locations with other amenities, and 500+ mile ranges and most people are going to make the jump.

Besides not having the awesome V8 supercharged sound, EV's are super nice in most cases for instant thrust, efficiency, and just a nice overall driving experience.

 

[Exec_TRX]

Okay, but that is using extreme cases, as you also say. I had a Lightning for a few months and it was good. At most 1% or so a day of battery loss just sitting. They are good on minimal phantom losses. My wife's Tesla Model Y will lose battery sitting if we have sentry camera mode and cabin overheat protection on because obviously those lose energy. Turning that stuff off if the car is going to sit a week at an airport or whatever, it uses basically zero battery. Also, literally costs us a few bucks to charge the battery at home with my 6 cent/kw plan. Then, I just put $114 for 29 gallons of premium into my TRX two days ago.

Again, people need to evaluate their individual use cases and decide on their purchases. Has been that way since the beginning of time.

The Hummer is cool and I'm excited about mine. Doubt I'll keep it forever and I'm not going to sell the TRX. But, I do realize EV technology is going to get much better down the road. A plethora of chargers at reasonable pricing, 10-15 minute charge times at convenient locations with other amenities, and 500+ mile ranges and most people are going to make the jump.

Besides not having the awesome V8 supercharged sound, EV's are super nice in most cases for instant thrust, efficiency, and just a nice overall driving experience.

you can fix the sound. get a pocket boost.

 

[rao26]

Okay, but that is using extreme cases, as you also say. I had a Lightning for a few months and it was good. At most 1% or so a day of battery loss just sitting. They are good on minimal phantom losses. My wife's Tesla Model Y will lose battery sitting if we have sentry camera mode and cabin overheat protection on because obviously those lose energy. Turning that stuff off if the car is going to sit a week at an airport or whatever, it uses basically zero battery. Also, literally costs us a few bucks to charge the battery at home with my 6 cent/kw plan. Then, I just put $114 for 29 gallons of premium into my TRX two days ago.

Again, people need to evaluate their individual use cases and decide on their purchases. Has been that way since the beginning of time.

The Hummer is cool and I'm excited about mine. Doubt I'll keep it forever and I'm not going to sell the TRX. But, I do realize EV technology is going to get much better down the road. A plethora of chargers at reasonable pricing, 10-15 minute charge times at convenient locations with other amenities, and 500+ mile ranges and most people are going to make the jump.

Besides not having the awesome V8 supercharged sound, EV's are super nice in most cases for instant thrust, efficiency, and just a nice overall driving experience.

Instant thrust is very important to the ev crowd