Black Stone Lab results.

[RamTrxUSA]

Smart thinking man! I'll just stick the entire hard drive to it haha

That’ll sure do the trick!

 

[vipermike626]

Just received my report

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

Just received my report

High in aluminum just like mine. At least your iron looks in normal range. Im heavy on all the metals haha

 

[vipermike626]

High in aluminum just like mine. At least your iron looks in normal range. Im heavy on all the metals haha

what do you think that actually means??

 

[LouDogg]

Hi All,
I just read this thread and I'm really interested in using the right oil. Whenever I change the oil, I tend to reduce the intervals by half from what the manufacturer recommends. Soon, I will be doing my first oil change on my used 2021. I own a 2004 Toyota Tacoma and a 2006 Toyota Tundra. I either use Mobile 1 or Amazon Basic Full Synthetic oil and an OEM filter. It seems like Amazon Basic a rebrand, but I've heard it's a good oil. Do you have any opinions on Amazon oil? Have any individuals used it or performed an oil analysis?

Also, I'm gathering from this thread either Amsoil and Redline is the best?

Thanks in advance.

 

[saturnfire]

I don't know how critical it is to meet the oil spec for the 6.2, but I buy the Pennzoil Spec from Amazon that is the factory oil. 0w-40. I buy it by the case since both my TRX and JL 392 use the same oil. I do not want to have a warranty claim denied because I did not use their factory spec oil. I barely put 3000 miles a year, but still get the oil changed out every ~5.5 months (6 months or 5000 miles is the recommendation) to maintain the warranty requirements...

Hi All,
I just read this thread and I'm really interested in using the right oil. Whenever I change the oil, I tend to reduce the intervals by half from what the manufacturer recommends. Soon, I will be doing my first oil change on my used 2021. I own a 2004 Toyota Tacoma and a 2006 Toyota Tundra. I either use Mobile 1 or Amazon Basic Full Synthetic oil and an OEM filter. It seems like Amazon Basic a rebrand, but I've heard it's a good oil. Do you have any opinions on Amazon oil? Have any individuals used it or performed an oil analysis?

Also, I'm gathering from this thread either Amsoil and Redline is the best?

Thanks in advance.

 

[SCARd4Life]

Hi All,
I just read this thread and I'm really interested in using the right oil. Whenever I change the oil, I tend to reduce the intervals by half from what the manufacturer recommends. Soon, I will be doing my first oil change on my used 2021. I own a 2004 Toyota Tacoma and a 2006 Toyota Tundra. I either use Mobile 1 or Amazon Basic Full Synthetic oil and an OEM filter. It seems like Amazon Basic a rebrand, but I've heard it's a good oil. Do you have any opinions on Amazon oil? Have any individuals used it or performed an oil analysis?

Also, I'm gathering from this thread either Amsoil and Redline is the best?

Thanks in advance.

Per @OnTheReel recommendation, our resident motor oil geek, you should consider Redline. I switched to Schaeffers at 5k miles after getting low viscosity results (common) on factory PUP. At my next oil change (August) I am sending the oil to several labs for side by side comparisons of results. Will post the results on the forum, probably in mid-September. Will keep Schaefer’s at that change, but might consider switching to Redline depending on the oil analysis results. It's also important to treat the fuel (I'm using Redline at each oil change) to make sure injectors are working well and not contributing to fuel dilution of the engine oil.

 

[OnTheReel]

what do you think that actually means??

It only means the aluminum was slightly elevated in that particular sample. There’s absolutely no conclusion to draw from it otherwise. Just one test. I really wouldn’t let Blackstone stress you out about piston wear and whatnot though. I’d expect to see higher iron to go along with the aluminum if that was the case.

In your test we also saw again that M1 stays in grade about as well as the Pennzoil. Which is to say it doesn’t. Another product that would be better marketed as an 0w30 with specs like that.

Hi All,
I just read this thread and I'm really interested in using the right oil. Whenever I change the oil, I tend to reduce the intervals by half from what the manufacturer recommends. Soon, I will be doing my first oil change on my used 2021. I own a 2004 Toyota Tacoma and a 2006 Toyota Tundra. I either use Mobile 1 or Amazon Basic Full Synthetic oil and an OEM filter. It seems like Amazon Basic a rebrand, but I've heard it's a good oil. Do you have any opinions on Amazon oil? Have any individuals used it or performed an oil analysis?

Also, I'm gathering from this thread either Amsoil and Redline is the best?

Thanks in advance.

Unless something changed very recently you can’t even get an off-brand 0w40 like Amazon, Supertech, etc. So that makes the call a little bit easier. Those old Toyotas will run forever with just about anything. The TRX is a different animal. And if there’s one thing to be learned from this thread, it’s that the truck is hard on oil and somewhat fickle.

 

[LouDogg]

It only means the aluminum was slightly elevated in that particular sample. There’s absolutely no conclusion to draw from it otherwise. Just one test. I really wouldn’t let Blackstone stress you out about piston wear and whatnot though. I’d expect to see higher iron to go along with the aluminum if that was the case.

In your test we also saw again that M1 stays in grade about as well as the Pennzoil. Which is to say it doesn’t. Another product that would be better marketed as an 0w30 with specs like that.

Unless something changed very recently you can’t even get an off-brand 0w40 like Amazon, Supertech, etc. So that makes the call a little bit easier. Those old Toyotas will run forever with just about anything. The TRX is a different animal. And if there’s one thing to be learned from this thread, it’s that the truck is hard on oil and somewhat fickle.

Per @OnTheReel recommendation, our resident motor oil geek, you should consider Redline. I switched to Schaeffers at 5k miles after getting low viscosity results (common) on factory PUP. At my next oil change (August) I am sending the oil to several labs for side by side comparisons of results. Will post the results on the forum, probably in mid-September. Will keep Schaefer’s at that change, but might consider switching to Redline depending on the oil analysis results. It's also important to treat the fuel (I'm using Redline at each oil change) to make sure injectors are working well and not contributing to fuel dilution of the engine oil.

Thanks for everyone's input. Ok, just for argument sake, is Redline is perfrer?

 

[OnTheReel]

Thanks for everyone's input. Ok, just for argument sake, is Redline is perfrer?

It’s my bread and butter and has given me the best results. I also like what I’ve seen from Amsoil SS in other people’s trucks but haven’t sampled it myself.

As far as the shelf oils…Mobil 1, Pennzoil, etc all seem to do about the same (not great). As a matter of fact Mobil 1 is using base stocks from Shell (Pennzoil’s parent company) so there’s really not enough difference to matter at this point. If you want something better you have to go to the boutique brands.

 

[LouDogg]

It’s my bread and butter and has given me the best results. I also like what I’ve seen from Amsoil SS in other people’s trucks but haven’t sampled it myself.

As far as the shelf oils…Mobil 1, Pennzoil, etc all seem to do about the same (not great). As a matter of fact Mobil 1 is using base stocks from Shell (Pennzoil’s parent company) so there’s really not enough difference to matter at this point. If you want something better you have to go to the boutique brands.

Thanks again.
What about filters? Are OEM filters fine or is there a better option?

 

[MyWifeLetMe]

Thanks again.
What about filters? Are OEM filters fine or is there a better option?

Thread '*47* RAM TRX / HELLCAT OIL FILTERS CUT & COMPARED' https://www.ram-trx.com/threads/47-ram-trx-hellcat-oil-filters-cut-compared.9481/

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

what do you think that actually means??

im no scientist but iron = block wear & aluminum = piston/ring wear?

 

[IdahoKTM]

Just received my report

Holy shit, 27,000 miles in 13 months! Roughly 70 miles per day, every day of the year.

 

[ARInfidel]

Per @OnTheReel recommendation, our resident motor oil geek, you should consider Redline. I switched to Schaeffers at 5k miles after getting low viscosity results (common) on factory PUP. At my next oil change (August) I am sending the oil to several labs for side by side comparisons of results. Will post the results on the forum, probably in mid-September. Will keep Schaefer’s at that change, but might consider switching to Redline depending on the oil analysis results. It's also important to treat the fuel (I'm using Redline at each oil change) to make sure injectors are working well and not contributing to fuel dilution of the engine oil.

Anxious to see the Schaffers results as that is what I have purchased for the next change. Thanks

 

[vipermike626]

Holy shit, 27,000 miles in 13 months! Roughly 70 miles per day, every day of the year.

Running around every day checking on jobs. I just look at it as I’m being paid to drive a TRX

 

[FULLTHROTTLERICK]

Running around every day checking on jobs. I just look at it as I’m being paid to drive a TRX

that's the spirit! My wife asks me all the time, why we'd take the 9mpg truck when we could take her 3-row GCL with massage seats (love em) and i say well b/c WHY THE F WOULDN'T WE LOL??? Expense $10k+ in gas/year lol

 

[SCARd4Life]

Anxious to see the Schaffers results as that is what I have purchased for the next change. Thanks

Cool. This is the Blackstone report that shows my sample results. The column to the left of the averages is Schaeffer's and the one to the right is PUP. Not happy with these viscosity results, especially at such low miles on oil. It's a garage queen, but I'm trying to drive it more. Throw me in that briar patch.

 

[OnTheReel]

Not sure how much is to do with Blackstone’s methods but the viscosity returns are disappointing thus far. The SAE range is 12.5-16.3 cSt. Nobody blends to the top of that range but Amsoil and Red Line typically come back above 13 when used at a reasonable interval.

 

[ARInfidel]

Cool. This is the Blackstone report that shows my sample results. The column to the left of the averages is Schaeffer's and the one to the right is PUP. Not happy with these viscosity results, especially at such low miles on oil. It's a garage queen, but I'm trying to drive it more. Throw me in that briar patch.

Thanks - possibly just that I don’t know much about reading these reports, but looks like the Schaffer did overall quite a bit better than the PUP? Did it not ? I decided to switch to Schaffer at my upcoming change, mainly cause I thought it would be better than PUP and as it is API certified and meets Chrysler MS 12633 requirements and would not cause any warranty issues.