Airbags for towing (air bags)

i havent put air bags on a trx but have installed couple on one ton fords that rode like lumberwagons and the air bags helped the trucks ride better.so should not hurt ride qualities on trx.
 
I installed Timbergrove airbags and with 2-3psi in the bags, it raised the back a little to where the rake of the truck was to much for me. I had 1.5 inch Foutz leveling collars installed. Truck now sits level and looks good but definitely lost some of the plush ride quality front and rear. Has a harsher/sharper feel on high-speed bumps, potholes, water, sewer covers. I'm waiting to hear from the dealer if they can do that calibration deal that I read on here. If they can and ride doesn't improve, I will probably take the collars and bags off and try the springs.
 
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I installed Timbergrove airbags and with 2-3psi in the bags, it raised the back a little to where the rake of the truck was to much for me. I had 1.5 inch Foutz leveling collars installed. Truck now sits level and looks good but definitely lost some of the plush ride quality front and rear. Has a harsher/sharper feel on high-speed bumps, potholes, water, sewer covers. I'm waiting to hear from the dealer if they can do that calibration deal that I read on here. If they can and ride doesn't improve, I will probably take the collars and bags off and try the springs.
Good to know, I basically installed my air bags the week I bought the truck. I didn't really notice any difference in ride, but I hadn't put many miles on it without airbags. For sure it increased the rake like 1.5", but I'm OK with that as I don't want to screw around figuring out how to put collars on it up front.
 
I was wondering when something like this was going to come out. Does the air hose for the bags mount near the tow pins for easy pressure check and adjustment?
 
I was wondering when something like this was going to come out. Does the air hose for the bags mount near the tow pins for easy pressure check and adjustment?
You can install the air hose valve anywhere you want. I don't have a manual valve as I installed the compressor.
 
You can install the air hose valve anywhere you want. I don't have a manual valve as I installed the compressor.
What's the purpose of an onboard compressor in a pickup for airbags?
 
I picked up my tractor from the farm and brought it home today. Trailer, tractor and mower on the scales was 10,440 pounds.

Squat/Ride height: I think I stated in my earlier post that the Wireless One onboard compressor kit I am using has a minimum 5 psi you can air down to. That being said, with my empty trailer, height from the ground to the bottom of the wheel well was 41 7/8" with 5 psi in the bags. With the tractor loaded, the TRX squatted pretty good and the height measured 39 3/4" with 5 psi in the bags (a little over 2" of squat). With 52 psi in the bags, I brought the truck back up to the empty trailer ride level. I wasn't thinking about the (original) ride height with no trailer and 5 psi in the bags, which would have been 43 1/4", so I don't really know how much air I needed to bring the truck back up to the original ride height. But, doing the math at 43 1/4" (empty truck w/ 5 psi) - 39 3/4" (loaded tractor and trailer) would give me 3 1/2" of squat. Regardless, I used 52 psi to get the height up to the empty trailer height, but it looks like I should have used a little more. Next time I load it, I will figure out my exact psi setting needed.

Ride quality: The TRX pulled the load without any issues. I had the drive mode set to "auto" and I think it may have put it in trailer haul mode on its own. I say that as the trailer light on the dash lit up and the blind spot monitoring automatically adjusted to account for the trailer. I was pretty impressed at how good the blind spot monitoring was for the whole length of the truck and trailer, it worked flawlessly. The TRX pulled the trailer straight down the road with no trailer sway and bumps were not really anymore noticeable than you'd expect with a heavy trailer. I did hit one road that had a poor surface (wavy left-to-right and in elevation) for about a mile. When I initially hit that section doing about 55 mph, the trailer felt a little squirrely and I could tell my load weight distribution (front to back) was not optimal. To this point, I have a 20' trailer with a gate and the load I hauled the other day was my worst configuration, because the only way I can haul it is to pull up the rear wheel of the bush hog mower and load it first, and then turn the tractor around and load it with the front end loader as far forward as possible. Ideally, I'd rather put more weight up front (like in the pics with my empty tractor). However, I did have plenty of tongue weight based on the squat without air, so although not ideal, this load did not feel unsafe to me (mower, loader, and engine were in front of the front trailer axle). I need a different trailer, or to figure out how to remove my trailer gate to allow for longer loads with the tractor all the way forward. This is the only configuration I haul that is sketchy like that lol.

Transmission: I felt like the transmission handled the load pretty well. It felt like the RPM shift points went up (to around 4,000-4,500 rpm).

Brakes: Braking was no problem. I always give myself plenty of space when hauling (or even when just driving in general). The integrated brake controller on the TRX is a nice feature and I had the gain set to 10. My trailer has two 5,000 lb axles with brakes on all 4 wheels, and I didn't feel like the trailer was pushing me when I came to a stop.

Power and MPG: This one is a no-brainer. The TRX has power to spare to pull this load. In fact, at one stop light, a Honda Accord was beside me and tried to out accelerate me to 60 mph - but I decided to not let it happen :). I can't say he was flooring it, but neither was I. Needless to say, this truck has plenty of horsepower. That being said, before I hauled this tractor, I was getting an average of 13.5 mpg (first 890 miles all in). I reset the mpg meter before leaving the farm and averaged 7.3 mpg pulling the tractor home (44 miles to the scale).

Timber Grove air bags: Bottom line, I am pleased! I already provided my feedback and pics in the original thread regarding fit, finish, and installation. After loading my tractor, adjusting the sag (ride height), and taking it for a spin, I have no complaints, and I would recommend these airbags for others to use. The Wireless One compressor kit (not sold by Timber Grove Enterprises) is also very good. Set it, and forget it. Once you have the air pressure where you want it, if for any reason the pressure needs to adjust, the compressor senses this and either adds or removes air as-needed.

Closing thoughts: I have heard a lot about weight distribution hitches and have read many reviews about why you should not overload your truck (based on the manufacturer's recommendations). That being said, I had very good success with my Power Wagon using firestone airbags to pull my tractor and implements; it had a max tow rating of 9,900 pounds. The TRX tow rating is considerably less at 8,100 pounds. The load I hauled yesterday is 28% over the rated capacity ((10,400-8,100)/8,100). I'm not advocating that anyone overload their truck, but for me, the TRX can handle the few times (4-5 round trips) I haul this heavy load for a relatively short distance. I do use my trailer for other stuff, much lighter loads including: a smaller tractor, a car, and construction material. The TRX can handle this maximum load and that makes me happy :).

Here are the pics from this trip...
It didn’t put it into Tow/Haul mode it just indicated it had calibrated your rear sensors to account for the trailer. I strongly suggest using Tow/Haul mode as it helps a lot. I used it and ACC on a drive from CO to WA a few weeks ago so had time to ply with all the settings. FYI… you have to put it into Tow/Haul mode each time you start the vehicle. Also, for some reason, if you use remote start it doesn’t always calibrate for the trailer length
 
It didn’t put it into Tow/Haul mode it just indicated it had calibrated your rear sensors to account for the trailer. I strongly suggest using Tow/Haul mode as it helps a lot. I used it and ACC on a drive from CO to WA a few weeks ago so had time to ply with all the settings. FYI… you have to put it into Tow/Haul mode each time you start the vehicle. Also, for some reason, if you use remote start it doesn’t always calibrate for the trailer length

I didn't know that about the autostart. I was wondering why the trailer length didn't calibrate sometimes. In general some great tips, thanks for posting that!
 
It didn’t put it into Tow/Haul mode it just indicated it had calibrated your rear sensors to account for the trailer. I strongly suggest using Tow/Haul mode as it helps a lot. I used it and ACC on a drive from CO to WA a few weeks ago so had time to ply with all the settings. FYI… you have to put it into Tow/Haul mode each time you start the vehicle. Also, for some reason, if you use remote start it doesn’t always calibrate for the trailer length
Sounds good, thanks for the feedback. I hauled my other tractor the other day, and put it in tow haul mode. The TRX felt much better (not that it was bad before), but this tractor is probably ~2k pounds lighter (33HP). Can't remember if I already posted these pics with bags aired up and not aired up, so I'm adding them just in case.
 

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This may be a dumb question; how would these bags effect any spirited off roading in Baja mode? I towed a 6100 lb camp trailer a couple hundred miles, unhooked and then went 65 through some open trails. Was the most fun I have had in the truck. But, I would be worried about losing that ability.

I will be towing a show vehicle next year quite a bit and this may help me and may convince me to hold onto the truck haha.
 
This may be a dumb question; how would these bags effect any spirited off roading in Baja mode? I towed a 6100 lb camp trailer a couple hundred miles, unhooked and then went 65 through some open trails. Was the most fun I have had in the truck. But, I would be worried about losing that ability.

I will be towing a show vehicle next year quite a bit and this may help me and may convince me to hold onto the truck haha.
You lose clearance with the bags. You wouldn't want to drive it hard with them in. They are made to be removable but definitely a PIA to remove them. They have internal bump stops and I hit the bump stop all the time with just normal driving on the street. I don't like how they make the truck feel but they work great for towing so that's the trade off. I will pull them out as soon as racing season is over and I'm done towing.
 
This may be a dumb question; how would these bags effect any spirited off roading in Baja mode? I towed a 6100 lb camp trailer a couple hundred miles, unhooked and then went 65 through some open trails. Was the most fun I have had in the truck. But, I would be worried about losing that ability.

I will be towing a show vehicle next year quite a bit and this may help me and may convince me to hold onto the truck haha.
Ever sit on someone’s knee as a kid and they lift their heel real fast and drop it and the. Lift it and drop it again real fast. It would be like that.
 
I don't notice any ride harshness with airbags at 5psi on normal rides driving.
 
I don't notice any ride harshness with airbags at 5psi on normal rides driving.
@ 5 psi it’s ok but way bouncy. if you have no air in them and you in street mode you’ll bounce off the bump stops all day. The problem is I’m ok with putting in 4 or 5 psi but they don’t hold it for long. It’s a constant adding air.
 
I just towed a 7,000lb RV about 300 miles with only a Weigh Safe Weight Distribution hitch. The truck did sag, but was very stable. I went from Corpus Christi to Rock Springs, TX. I drove from 70mph to 90mph and had no issuses. Averaged just above 6mpg using the Tow mode, which worked very well. Once north of San Antonio there were lots of hills and the truck handled them without issue. Even passed dumbasses going slow while climbing hills.

I initially bought the air bags, then backed out and just used the WD hitch. I think a WD hitch should be the 1st purchase, then air bags if needed.
a Fantastic write up. I am in the same boat. I pull a camper 7300 lbs loaded. At the most add another 500 lbs of stuff. Anyway, the TRX just like my Raptor did squats but the TRX can certainly handle it with my WDH. I also have no handling issues. It works will...
 
@ 5 psi it’s ok but way bouncy. if you have no air in them and you in street mode you’ll bounce off the bump stops all day. The problem is I’m ok with putting in 4 or 5 psi but they don’t hold it for long. It’s a constant adding air.
Have you tried to fix the leak?
 
@ 5 psi it’s ok but way bouncy. if you have no air in them and you in street mode you’ll bounce off the bump stops all day. The problem is I’m ok with putting in 4 or 5 psi but they don’t hold it for long. It’s a constant adding air.
My compressor kicks on every now and then (to maintain the pressure), but really pretty rarely. It may kick on for 3-5 seconds one or of ten times I drive the truck, maybe not even that often. I'm only driving it maybe one or two days a week, so if it were leaking, it would have plenty of time to do that in my garage. I've cranked up to 50 psi and sprayed soapy water on all the connections and I don't see any leaks.
 
I can't believe how much these bags will lift the truck. If you have a front leveling kit it sits level with the bags at 5 psi. The ride seemed a little stiffer but nothing to complain about.
 

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