Horn relocate and/or reinforce horn wiring?

RedBeard · Feb 3, 2023

Airmousam said:
I own a lot of guns and carry from time to time depending on where I am...Zero chance Im pulling a gun on 2 tweakers trying to steal my sub...aint worth it...take the fucking sub...sounds like it was years ago tho...so I get it...today? Nope...Id shoot a Chinese spy balloon out of the sky tho ;-)

Eighty said:
I own a lot of guns too, but I don’t announce it.
Ah, shit…

Roweski said:
I used to own a lot of guns, but they all sank in a tragic boating accident.

What are guns

Fifty · Feb 4, 2023

I like peanut butter

CoJoe · Feb 4, 2023

Fifty said:
I like peanut butter

Oh shit, here we go again

LDN · Feb 5, 2023

Eighty said:
Yes. A dual-note horn.

But two physical horn snails, correct? At least mine looks to have both a low and high horn (2 horns)

Eighty · Feb 5, 2023

LDN said:
But two physical horn snails, correct? At least mine looks to have both a low and high horn (2 horns)

Yes. It’s two separate snails to make the dual notes. I thought you were asking if there was a second (separate) horn.

LDN · Feb 5, 2023

Eighty said:
Yes. It’s two separate snails to make the dual notes. I thought you were asking if there was a second (separate) horn.

Ah sorry - no how many actual snails. I ask as some 'relocation pics' only showed one of the two snails. Maybe just bad angles.

TRX-BR4Z1L · Feb 8, 2023

I just relocated the horn today!

Probably I’ll try to find another better place to put it in but for now it’s okay.

I didn’t remove the grill, I was able to remove the horn sliding it to the left side of the radiator!

Tacoma2TRX · Feb 8, 2023

marcotavares said:
I just relocated the horn today!

Probably I’ll try to find another better place to put it in but for now it’s okay.

I didn’t remove the grill, I was able to remove the horn sliding it to the left side of the radiator!View attachment 88223

Nice! Any chance you'd be willing to do a quick write up of the steps you followed? Seems like the hardest part is getting the horn disconnected, but any kind of a step by step instruction would be super helpful for the community on this forum.....several of us wanting to do this horn relocate. Regardless, thanks for posting the pics and proving it can be done DIY!

LDN · Feb 8, 2023

Tacoma2TRX said:
Nice! Any chance you'd be willing to do a quick write up of the steps you followed? Seems like the hardest part is getting the horn disconnected, but any kind of a step by step instruction would be super helpful for the community on this forum.....several of us wanting to do this horn relocate. Regardless, thanks for posting the pics and proving it can be done DIY!

+1 for a step-by-step!

Looks like a great place! Did you have to extend the loom?

gbon · Feb 10, 2023

Iangol said:
thats something i and a few others are looking into, if you remove it completely the threaded rod falls out of line inside the door and potentially interferes with the window and you need to pull the door panel off to re-attach, the one option we are thinking is to cut the knobs short enough to stay within the door panel yet flush or slightly below so they cant be pried up

I am getting my truck PPF and took a look behind the front passenger door panel. I unscrewed the exposed silver lock cylinder and there does not seem to be any interference with the window. The black plastic cylinder snaps into the white plastic mold, keeping the cable from falling out. It locked/unlocked without issue. I will try to take a look at the rear doors but I am assuming it will be the same setup.

EndMan · Feb 10, 2023

I am thinking of taking the $25 kill switch that I just ordered and running the power down with the horn wiring. That way if they cut the horn then they also cut the kill switch and the truck cannot be started.

Tacoma2TRX · Feb 19, 2023

LDN said:
+1 for a step-by-step!

Looks like a great place! Did you have to extend the loom?

@PotterTRX — any chance you’d wanna do a YouTube video on this process?

Dtrini · Feb 23, 2023

juicebox said:
Apparently it is very easy for thieves to disconnect our factory horns before breaking into our beasts, and lots of posts about it. Has anybody figured out how/where to relocate the horn so it can't be fished/disconnected from the front? I was also thinking about using some kind of braided stainless steel sleeving to cover the exposed horn wires and solder/strengthen the connection points. Any input and/or pics would be appreciated! I have a Ravelco being installed tomorrow, but I'd like to take some extra steps to secure my pride and joy. Thanks all!

To make it harder before you decide on another solution, it is actually very simple to relocate the horn. Open the hood and look below the hood latch. You will be able to undo the bolt(s) that is holding the horn frame onto that brace. Undo it and take out the horn. Then, peel back the wiring to gain access to the wires and cut them, extend them with more wire enough to go back to the windshield and properly secure it. I relocated the whole horn assembly to the space between the battery and the windshield on the driver side (2021 RAM 1500 Limited Longhorn). Make sure to tuck and hide the wiring with all the other wires going back to the fuse box and then just continue up to the place you will sit the horn in. Be careful not to pinch the wires anywhere or have it too loose that allows the horn to move or short out anywhere on the battery or body.

This should be done by the dealer on every single RAM and Dodge sold for FREE. It is ridiculous that this has gone on for so long and without Stellantis taking responsibility/.

IdahoKTM · Aug 4, 2023

Iangol said:
thats something i and a few others are looking into, if you remove it completely the threaded rod falls out of line inside the door and potentially interferes with the window and you need to pull the door panel off to re-attach, the one option we are thinking is to cut the knobs short enough to stay within the door panel yet flush or slightly below so they cant be pried up

You don't need to cut them off, just unscrew them from the lock mechanism, then install a 3/8" plastic plug in the hole. I bought them at Ace Hardware for 40¢.

ParadigmDawg · Aug 4, 2023

IdahoKTM said:
You don't need to cut them off, just unscrew them from the lock mechanism, then install a 3/8" plastic plug in the hole. I bought them at Ace Hardware for 40¢.

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No issue with the rod falling down on the front or back windows?

IdahoKTM · Aug 4, 2023

ParadigmDawg said:
No issue with the rod falling down on the front or back windows?

No. I did that mod about a year ago and no issues.

ParadigmDawg · Aug 4, 2023

IdahoKTM said:
No. I did that mod about a year ago and no issues.

Perfect, I just took mine off. No issues

marksoup · Aug 6, 2023

TRX-BR4Z1L said:
I just relocated the horn today!

Probably I’ll try to find another better place to put it in but for now it’s okay.

I didn’t remove the grill, I was able to remove the horn sliding it to the left side of the radiator!View attachment 88223

How’s the horn sound / noise level?

Tacoma2TRX · Aug 7, 2023

marksoup said:
How’s the horn sound / noise level?

It is not as loud for sure….but not necessarily in a bad way

marksoup · Aug 20, 2023

TRX-BR4Z1L said:
I just relocated the horn today!

Probably I’ll try to find another better place to put it in but for now it’s okay.

I didn’t remove the grill, I was able to remove the horn sliding it to the left side of the radiator!View attachment 88223

Decided to do this weekend what @TRX-BR4Z1L did - relocated the horn. Easy - but since the existing horn is such at B!thc to get out, I simply bought a second… may or may not confuse those who are interested in pulling a horn wire that is obviously not there - or they will break the window anyway and the relocated horn will go off….

Note on the new horn bracket, you may have to straighten the notch that was designed to hold it in place from moving in its original position (front of the radiator).

Anyway provided a few pics of what I did as well. The yellow circles are more for attention to where wires were disconnected, spliced, run, or new horn fastened, etc.

Not difficult at all overall.

Mark