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I continue to feel, that a simple Club (or similar) , is the best solution, for some cases. While we all know it not as effective as an electronic immobilizer or other cut-out devices, it is my opinion, that when a thief sees these things, there is a good chance they will move onto the next vehicle. Sure, it can get cut off by a thief, but that is going to make noise and attract attention at someone's home, during late hours. For the small investment you make, I bet it deters a lot of potential losses. Just my 2 Cents.
I use the Club and an electronic immobilizer. The Immobilizer is automatically armed each time I park, the club is manual. I only use the club when parking in a parking lot somewhere. I never use it at home but then "trust me" no one is going to try to steal my truck from my house. End of story.
 
I continue to feel, that a simple Club (or similar) , is the best solution, for some cases. While we all know it not as effective as an electronic immobilizer or other cut-out devices, it is my opinion, that when a thief sees these things, there is a good chance they will move onto the next vehicle. Sure, it can get cut off by a thief, but that is going to make noise and attract attention at someone's home, during late hours. For the small investment you make, I bet it deters a lot of potential losses. Just my 2 Cents.

Are you saying that the dirtbag will walk up to your TRX, see the Club, and say "shit it has a Club!" "Okay, well I guess I'll just steal this Camry parked right next to it". TRX thieves are looking for TRX's and will do what it takes to get your truck...including coming back if they fail the first time.
 
everyone has an opinion… I’ll just say though…. Unless my life or that of my immediate family are in danger…. I personally would not want to live with the consequences of violence.

At the end of the day… it’s just stuff. Stuff becomes less and less important the older you get. When you’re dead and gone…. All that stuff… is just junk for your kin to sell off and throw away.

Don’t get caught up in the moment… and focus not on your stuff but on the memories you make with those you love.

And if your stuff gets stolen…. Cash in the insurance and get something else.

:)
 
Sorry to hear these bastards got another one. Time to rig up something fun for these window climbers. Let's try a loop of razer wire filament and a mid seat sensor connected to a pneumatic to snap it tight. O yeah then somehow we are the bad guy. When they start getting beat to death and noone cares about it anymore then it will stop only then.


You can get proximity sensors. If a person passes by a sensor, an alarm in your house goes off. Gives you time to get out there with a gun and change their mind. Won't work in all situations, but it can give you a small headstart vs these thugs.
 
everyone has an opinion… I’ll just say though…. Unless my life or that of my immediate family are in danger…. I personally would not want to live with the consequences of violence.

At the end of the day… it’s just stuff. Stuff becomes less and less important the older you get. When you’re dead and gone…. All that stuff… is just junk for your kin to sell off and throw away.

Don’t get caught up in the moment… and focus not on your stuff but on the memories you make with those you love.

And if your stuff gets stolen…. Cash in the insurance and get something else.

:)


At the end of the day, it's not their stuff. If someone else's stuff (my stuff) is worth their life, then they can roll those dice. I have a proximity sensor outside my garage and inside my garage. Should give me time to get out there and stop them.

Sounds like you've be conditioned to accept liberal policies. Like you say, it's not wrong, it's just different ideologies. Mine just happens to be the opposite of yours. Imagine if everyone had the "if they want to steal it, let them steal it, I'll just file insurance" attitude. Theft would go RAMPANT.

Think if everyone had a gun and shot anyone that tried to steal their stuff? (and all states had the same laws about this as what, say ND does) Thefts would decrease DRAMTICALLY.
 
Think if everyone had a gun and shot anyone that tried to steal their stuff? (and all states had the same laws about this as what, say ND does) Thefts would decrease DRAMTICALLY.

Is there any state where you can kill somebody, outside of your home, for trying to steal something when the there is no threat to your life or well-being? Say in our case somebody has broken into your truck and is driving away and with excellent marksmanship you hit him with a shot through the rear window? Or somebody grabs your wife's purse while y'all are walking down the street and is running away with it as fast as they can?

I don't think I could get away with lethal force in those instances even in Alabama. I am, however, an engineer and not a lawyer.
 
You can get proximity sensors. If a person passes by a sensor, an alarm in your house goes off. Gives you time to get out there with a gun and change their mind. Won't work in all situations, but it can give you a small headstart vs these thugs.
What proximity sensors are you using? Need those. You can PM if you don't want to disclose that info for security reasons.
 
Is there any state where you can kill somebody, outside of your home, for trying to steal something when the there is no threat to your life or well-being? Say in our case somebody has broken into your truck and is driving away and with excellent marksmanship you hit him with a shot through the rear window? Or somebody grabs your wife's purse while y'all are walking down the street and is running away with it as fast as they can?

I don't think I could get away with lethal force in those instances even in Alabama. I am, however, an engineer and not a lawyer.
Texas has something called the castle doctrine a.k.a. "stand your ground law" which gives it citizens pretty broad rights in defending life and property. There are exceptions so you need to read and understand the law .
 
Texas has something called the castle doctrinaire a.k.a. "stand your ground law" which gives it citizens pretty broad rights in defending life and property. There are exceptions so you need to read and understand the law .
I wish that law applied in Florida. There are a lot of scumbags and mf here. If the police can't clean the city, we (the people) could do it.
 
I wish that law applied in Florida. There are a lot of scumbags and mf here. If the police can't clean the city, we (the people) could do it.
Georgia is bad too. I have guns but also carry mace like pic related since if Im wrong its only a misdemeanor.
 

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At the end of the day, it's not their stuff. If someone else's stuff (my stuff) is worth their life, then they can roll those dice. I have a proximity sensor outside my garage and inside my garage. Should give me time to get out there and stop them.

Sounds like you've be conditioned to accept liberal policies. Like you say, it's not wrong, it's just different ideologies. Mine just happens to be the opposite of yours. Imagine if everyone had the "if they want to steal it, let them steal it, I'll just file insurance" attitude. Theft would go RAMPANT.

Think if everyone had a gun and shot anyone that tried to steal their stuff? (and all states had the same laws about this as what, say ND does) Thefts would decrease DRAMTICALLY.
So, you're willing to lay down your life for your truck? We seem to forget that bad guys have pew-pew's too. I know, I know we're all John Wick when we close our eyes. Family is worth dying for - a truck is not. Until you can guarantee you won't get shot (lol) it's a hell of a gamble my man. It's about risk assessment not political ideology. 🤷‍♂️
 
So, you're willing to lay down your life for your truck? We seem to forget that bad guys have pew-pew's too. I know, I know we're all John Wick when we close our eyes. Family is worth dying for - a truck is not. Until you can guarantee you won't get shot (lol) it's a hell of a gamble my man. It's about risk assessment not political ideology. 🤷‍♂️
I don't intend to lay down my life to keep my truck but I'm not going to stand by and watch someone break-in and try to steal it either. It depends on the situation on what actions I take. But, my rule #1 is, assume the thief(s) are armed too and proceed accordingly. ;)
 
Alright fellas. Got a call from Long Beach PD (about an hour away for those not familiar with SoCal areas). Truck was left in a neighbor, someone called it in, and it was towed to their yard. I sent a tow truck to go get it and take to a body shop I use. Will report back on the damages when I go see it tomorrow.
Any update?
 
So, you're willing to lay down your life for your truck? We seem to forget that bad guys have pew-pew's too. I know, I know we're all John Wick when we close our eyes. Family is worth dying for - a truck is not. Until you can guarantee you won't get shot (lol) it's a hell of a gamble my man. It's about risk assessment not political ideology. 🤷‍♂️
The more people that take out those stealing from us all the less of them their will be. The problem comes in when just because things are not worth it to you by proxy they are supposed to not be worth it to others and that's bull. We really do not want to emboldened these kinds of people they will take more and more until it is your life. That my friends is why it is so important we are all of the same mind set. It is not why did they shoot that guy why did some one beat another to death over a truck, it's why did that person decide to steal and loose their life. They are not the victim they are the perpetrator! Just because the victim got the upper hand and ended their career early doesn't change that. We are all much safer when those who wish us harm are uncertain if it will cost them everything.
 
The more people that take out those stealing from us all the less of them their will be. The problem comes in when just because things are not worth it to you by proxy they are supposed to not be worth it to others and that's bull. We really do not want to emboldened these kinds of people they will take more and more until it is your life. That my friends is why it is so important we are all of the same mind set. It is not why did they shoot that guy why did some one beat another to death over a truck, it's why did that person decide to steal and loose their life. They are not the victim they are the perpetrator! Just because the victim got the upper hand and ended their career early doesn't change that. We are all much safer when those who wish us harm are uncertain if it will cost them everything.

There's a lot of truth in this, but also a lot of risk. Risk of getting yourself hurt. Risk of retaliation by the thief or his gang. Risk of getting sued by the thief and losing no telling how much money defending yourself even if you win the suit. Risk of being prosecuted and possibly incarcerated.

I agree with you in principle Mike, but I'm not sure I'm that big of a gambler. More power to those of you who just got off the riverboat, though.
 
The more people that take out those stealing from us all the less of them their will be. The problem comes in when just because things are not worth it to you by proxy they are supposed to not be worth it to others and that's bull. We really do not want to emboldened these kinds of people they will take more and more until it is your life. That my friends is why it is so important we are all of the same mind set. It is not why did they shoot that guy why did some one beat another to death over a truck, it's why did that person decide to steal and loose their life. They are not the victim they are the perpetrator! Just because the victim got the upper hand and ended their career early doesn't change that. We are all much safer when those who wish us harm are uncertain if it will cost them everything.
Finally common sense!
This country is too “we need to follow the law and defend humans right” but that’s a shit! If you decide to steal, you should know you might get killed for that!, since they won’t get prison Here is when you believe in kindness and material stuff won’t worth until they instead of stealing your truck, they try to steal to your daughter and she gets hurt. Oh boy!! There is not place in earth to run for them. Sorry guys, but those scumbags are reading our posts and targeting our trucks. They are among us. Our mindset must to change. If I catch you in my truck at night, you better pray that I don’t have my P320 on my right hand. That could be the last thing you will steal in earth.
 
I don’t disagree that there needs to be consequences for these actions of theifs, but the reason I decided against getting drone is because I personally am not going to run toward my truck and risk my life from a silent alarm, so why pay for a service that is just going to tell me about something that I’m not going to do something about. This is not a post for or against people taking action, just a post of my own personal thoughts on what I would do.
 
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