Removed the Hellwig sway bar

[Nowwhat]

Couldn't get over the poor quality of the bar on a nice truck..

Tossed the bar in the dumpster today and am very pleasantly surprised by the over all improvement.

I got caught up in the hype of this thing, but in reality it contributed more negatives than positives

 

[Johnkn]

Care to share so we can all learn?


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[TrayRex]

Couldn't get over the poor quality of the bar on a nice truck..

Tossed the bar in the dumpster today and am very pleasantly surprised by the over all improvement.

I got caught up in the hype of this thing, but in reality it contributed more negatives than positives

I’m local I’ll take it off your hands

 

[Nowwhat]

Care to share so we can all learn?


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The harshness was just too noticeable...I was on the middle setting...

I put it on before I had 0 offset wheels...the pushed out wheels and the truck handles very well..

Still needs better brakes

 

[Johnkn]

The harshness was just too noticeable...I was on the middle setting...

I put it on before I had 0 offset wheels...the pushed out wheels and the truck handles very well..

Still needs better brakes

What you've explained has nothing to do with the 'poor quality' of the bar you reported.

You could have tuned the bar to the lightest setting if desired

Zero offset wheels (opposed to the stock +19mm wheels) has little to do with body roll, nor do brakes....


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[Hemy5587]

Couldn't get over the poor quality of the bar on a nice truck..

Tossed the bar in the dumpster today and am very pleasantly surprised by the over all improvement.

I got caught up in the hype of this thing, but in reality it contributed more negatives than positives

Lol ballsy comment... The hellwig loyalist will be after you with their torches and pitchforks!

 

[timinnd]

I have one ready to put on when truck arrives. I think a lot of us do.

I'd appreciate
1. ) those that added them later, telling us what they noticed (improvement)
2.) OP telling us what was "better" when they took it off/what was worse with it on

 

[RedEyeTRX]

I assume you are talking about a rear bar.
I added a rear bar (Helwig) to a 2500 Suburban and it was a 100% improvement. I added one to the back of a Tundra and it made the truck feel "busy" on the highway, always twitching around. So I took it off.

 

[Nowwhat]

What you've explained has nothing to do with the 'poor quality' of the bar you reported.

You could have tuned the bar to the lightest setting if desired

Zero offset wheels (opposed to the stock +19mm wheels) has little to do with body roll, nor do brakes....


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Did I say body roll?.....did I say brakes would help with body roll?.....you need to finish your morning coffee then post....

 

[SorbSRT]

I have one ready to put on when truck arrives. I think a lot of us do.

I'd appreciate
1. ) those that added them later, telling us what they noticed (improvement)
2.) OP telling us what was "better" when they took it off/what was worse with it on

Handles much better over stock, especially when pushing it hard through the twisties. It is the difference between night and day, unless you’re a blind person.

 

[Johnkn]

Did I say body roll?.....did I say brakes would help with body roll?.....you need to finish your morning coffee then post....

What exactly do you think the purpose of a rear sway bar is? LOL.

I'll help you....Body roll and weight transfer which effects handling....

You posted: "Couldn't get over the poor quality of the bar" which is bullshit. You could have changed the mounting hole to tune it for a better ride. That has zero impact on the items quality.

Then you chose to throw brakes into the thread which has nothing to do with the sway bar.

PS I finished my morning coffee before you rolled out of bed.
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[Nowwhat]

ahhh truck forums....

 

[Hemy5587]

ahhh truck forums....

"My sway bar is bigger than your sway bar."

 

[TReX-RAM]

I am removing mine next week for the baja trip. I will put it back on after...along with the proper spacers.
It makes a huge difference in handling for my pavement princess performance.

 

[Johnkn]

I am removing mine next week for the baja trip. I will put it back on after...along with the proper spacers.
It makes a huge difference in handling for my pavement princess performance.

I have yet to install mine but have everything including the spacers waiting to go on, which mounting hole did you use? Middle?

Thanks

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[TReX-RAM]

I have yet to install mine but have everything including the spacers waiting to go on, which mounting hole did you use? Middle?

Thanks

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Yeah, I figured I would start in the middle and go from there. This next go around I will stiffen it up a bit to see how much different it will be.
It is on the pavement 95% of the time so why not. It is easy to remove for off-road ventures when needed.

 

[22’TRX]

I have yet to install mine but have everything including the spacers waiting to go on, which mounting hole did you use? Middle?

Thanks

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Looking at adding hellwig. Had one on my f-150 prior to the trx and it did make a big difference. Question- what spacers are you referring to?

 

[Johnkn]

I’m sure someone will post the pics, but there is a long hellwig thread. Rather than tightening links only against their rubber bushings (and having them come loose) a stainless spacer is installed inside the rubber bushing to allow for proper torquing.

Edit, here you go. Scroll toward the end...

First TRX with a rear swaybar!!! Handles amazing!!!

I bought 2 sway bars, one I put on my 21 and decided to trade that one in on ignition edition. My mechanic took off the sway bar to put on my new one and guess what. No holes. I have 2 sway bars just sitting in my garage, any suggestions

www.ram-trx.com

 

[ALJ]

I have one ready to put on when truck arrives. I think a lot of us do.

I'd appreciate
1. ) those that added them later, telling us what they noticed (improvement)
2.) OP telling us what was "better" when they took it off/what was worse with it on

How about a third question. Are there any suspension experts, that do this for a living, that can chime in to the pros and cons of a rear anti-sway bar for the TRX.

Personally I would not even consider one as I do not see any value, like when I added a rear anti-sway bar to an Audi A4, that was a huge help when taking spirited drives on twisty roads...The TRX is not built for twisty roads, so I am curious what benefits a rear anti-sway bar add to our TRX...Also what cons come with it considering the factory did not put one on.

 

[g_force]

A rear sway bar will reduce understeer and, if stiff enough, can induce oversteer. It'll increase the effective spring rate on bumps taken by one rear wheel but not the other, but if installed correctly, it should have no effect on the spring rate over bumps taken evenly by both wheels. In other words, @Nowwhat complaint of harshness is likely felt only on bumps taken by one rear wheel but not the other or, perhaps, his sway bar was binding.

The TRX understeers on pavement, so if tuned correctly, a rear sway should be an improvement on road. That this bar has settings at least lets you tweak the degree to which it reduces understeer/promotes oversteer.