Ill be that guy.. 37s

[TRXJouster]

or 40s

just saying, what will it take to squeeze them in now that we have a real powerplant in gas form.

if the shoe fits... Many reasons to put the truck on 37s, but i can not locate any threads on such discussion.

I also noticed i didnt see much discussion about a mild lift? in the sake of increased travel of course..

and finally

 

[Mack0092]

or 40s

just saying, what will it take to squeeze them in now that we have a real powerplant in gas form.

if the shoe fits... Many reasons to put the truck on 37s, but i can not locate any threads on such discussion.

I also noticed i didnt see much discussion about a mild lift? in the sake of increased travel of course..

and finally

I’ll bite, I’ll be adding more power before 37’s but you can’t go wrong with a 37” set of Toyo Open Country R/T’s. I’m going to imagine they will fit without any rubbing issues. As far as a lift goes, low center of gravity and the biggest tire you can fit (for me anyways) is the best combo. I was big in the off-road Jeep scene a few years back and nothing performs better in my opinion then a LCOG Jeep with the biggest tires you can fit.

 

[tkdr6]

I'm sure 37's would probably fit the truck without any mods/lifts as long as you're treating the truck as a pavement princess (which is how many will drive it).

Just be extremely cautious running 37's if you intend to do any aggressive off-road baja fun (jumping, high speeds on dirt, etc.). Ram TRX engineer Dan Stagner was very clear in one of his TRX design explanation videos that tires over 35 inches will definitely impose limits for the truck, especially when taking it off-road.

I think a minor lift would likely look really insane cool as well, but again you would need to be careful so you don't negatively impact the very unique suspension on this truck (largest ever rear coil springs, Bilstein dampers, etc.).

Whatever you do, be sure to post pics so all of us can fantasize and admire it!

 

[Brotharon]

I'm sure 37's would probably fit the truck without any mods/lifts as long as you're treating the truck as a pavement princess (which is how many will drive it).

Just be extremely cautious running 37's if you intend to do any aggressive off-road baja fun (jumping, high speeds on dirt, etc.). Ram TRX engineer Dan Stagner was very clear in one of his TRX design explanation videos that tires over 35 inches will definitely impose limits for the truck, especially when taking it off-road.

I think a minor lift would likely look really insane cool as well, but again you would need to be careful so you don't negatively impact the very unique suspension on this truck (largest ever rear coil springs, Bilstein dampers, etc.).

Whatever you do, be sure to post pics so all of us can fantasize and admire it!

The first time someone jumps one with 37s and blows the front fenders clean off I want to see the video!

 

[TRXJouster]

I’ll bite, I’ll be adding more power before 37’s but you can’t go wrong with a 37” set of Toyo Open Country R/T’s. I’m going to imagine they will fit without any rubbing issues. As far as a lift goes, low center of gravity and the biggest tire you can fit (for me anyways) is the best combo. I was big in the off-road Jeep scene a few years back and nothing performs better in my opinion then a LCOG Jeep with the biggest tires you can fit.

i had 35s RTs then now 37 RTs on 17s on my Powerwagon. Probably not the best tire for this truck.....
its great offroad, but beafy for the streets and too stiff/slippery when wet(South florida-no choice)
i would rather an even softer tire with more grip and get less miles....Like my HC did when it would burn NT555r in 2500 miles on the street.

ive built two JKUs and my second was LCOG lol
totally get it and would follow suit... but 37s on this rig will rub once you hit the woops without a better jounce and clearence setup.

 

[Mack0092]

I'm sure 37's would probably fit the truck without any mods/lifts as long as you're treating the truck as a pavement princess (which is how many will drive it).

Just be extremely cautious running 37's if you intend to do any aggressive off-road baja fun (jumping, high speeds on dirt, etc.). Ram TRX engineer Dan Stagner was very clear in one of his TRX design explanation videos that tires over 35 inches will definitely impose limits for the truck, especially when taking it off-road.

I think a minor lift would likely look really insane cool as well, but again you would need to be careful so you don't negatively impact the very unique suspension on this truck (largest ever rear coil springs, Bilstein dampers, etc.).

Whatever you do, be sure to post pics so all of us can fantasize and admire it!

I’d be curious what “limits” he would be referring to? Any clue? Mine will be 97% driven on the street but it’ll have days that I’ll take it to the trails, sand pits, and I’ve already found a few places to jump it. I agree with you in the uniqueness of the suspension, I think that any sort of “lift” that is going to be beneficial to suspension travel is going to require lots of R&D and lots of $$$$. Will it be worth it to some? Yes. Me? Probably not. Anyone can develop a spacer/budget lift for the front and I’m sure a lot of the pavement princess crew will adopt these kinds of lifts.

 

[TRXJouster]

looking into my posts, youll see what i may use it for.

i have my hunting lease and my powerwagon with Locker bypasses, air realease sway bar and 3.0 king remote res shocks was a LCOG build ontop of the great powerwagon radius arm setup and was perfect. I did beat the shit out of the PW and plan to pull a SXS for the next season.
the minimal lift provided by the thuren setup allows a 37 easily with major travel and flex to stuff it.

Im betting someone will do it, probably not me, as i think we have the most ideal COG and tire clearance we can while at least fitting a large 35.
37s are just that much more comfortable offroad

 

[Mack0092]

i had 35s RTs then now 37 RTs on 17s on my Powerwagon. Probably not the best tire for this truck.....
its great offroad, but beafy for the streets and too stiff/slippery when wet(South florida-no choice)
i would rather an even softer tire with more grip and get less miles....Like my HC did when it would burn NT555r in 2500 miles on the street.

ive built two JKUs and my second was LCOG lol
totally get it and would follow suit... but 37s on this rig will rub once you hit the woops without a better jounce and clearence setup.

I hear you about the Nitto 555’s I ran them on my old Mustang for a bit and almost put them on my HellCat. I run MT ET streets on my HellCat now and while they wear fast you cannot beat the traction they provide when putting down big power. I actually just snapped my drivers side axle shaft and twisted the passenger side on a very well prepped track and a 4K launch in my HellCat, those MT’s Hook! Lol

 

[Mack0092]

looking into my posts, youll see what i may use it for.

i have my hunting lease and my powerwagon with Locker bypasses, air realease sway bar and 3.0 king remote res shocks was a LCOG build ontop of the great powerwagon radius arm setup.
the minimal lift provided by the thuren setup allows a 37 easily with major travel and flex to stuff it

Sounds like the powerwagon is a beast. Where is your hunting lease/what do you hunt? I’m currently in the process of locating an outfitter for a archery Elk hunt in Colorado. Just took down a nice 8pt Whitetail here in MA last week.

 

[TRXJouster]

NT555r had better wet traction...
i had Michelin pilot sport 4s up front and that was the best daily setup i ever experienced.

had it for less then 2 years but no one EVER pulled me on the street.

 

[TRXJouster]

Sounds like the powerwagon is a beast. Where is your hunting lease/what do you hunt? I’m currently in the process of locating an outfitter for a archery Elk hunt in Colorado. Just took down a nice 8pt Whitetail here in MA last week.

lease is outside Labelle in south florida. 10k acres hog, deer, turkey, bear, snakes, gators and bobcat. lol heaven
the 6.4 helps me not miss the hellcat, i swear... but when the trx came out, it made me second guess.
it has S and B intake and resonator delete and magnaflow replacement with a high tuck exit.

 

[Mack0092]

NT555r had better wet traction...
i had Michelin pilot sport 4s up front and that was the best daily setup i ever experienced.

had it for less then 2 years but no one EVER pulled me on the street.

My HellCat is only a weekend warrior / race car and gets trailered to the track so needless to say it’s never been driven in the rain. Here in MA we don’t get those crazy random rainstorms like you guys get down south.

 

[Brotharon]

NT555r had better wet traction...
i had Michelin pilot sport 4s up front and that was the best daily setup i ever experienced.

had it for less then 2 years but no one EVER pulled me on the street.

I ran Michelin PS Cup 2s on a street car, great grip, but lasted ~4500 miles which made them more track tires than street tires. I only drive about 5k miles a year on my commuter, so not too big of a deal, but if you drive 1-2k miles a year that would be like an extra payment every 2 months or so...i hear that the Pilot Sport 4 is a nice tire and wears much better for the street...Either way, Michelin makes great tires in my experience...but not for the TRX

 

[TRXJouster]

My HellCat is only a weekend warrior / race car and gets trailered to the track so needless to say it’s never been driven in the rain. Here in MA we don’t get those crazy random rainstorms like you guys get down south.

lol

my hellcat was my daily and so will be the TRX.
i beat the crap out of my cars and treat them with anal oil changes and flushes.
never had a problem until the 66rfe took a dump(FCA wont admit terrible parts supply)
my HC was a dream except for the dreaded supercharger bearing noise everyone was going through...kinda why i sold it for the PW.

 

[F8Demon]

Lifting this truck with the extreme engineering and design effort that went into it, is sad in my opinion, but to each their own. It will only compromise what it was designed to do, and in my opinion plenty of other vehicle choices to do that with if that's your thing.
37s will not help with anything other than looking cool, which is very important!! I would consider that after learning of any rubbing issues or mods that need to be done to make it happen.

 

[TRXJouster]

I ran Michelin PS Cup 2s on a street car, great grip, but lasted ~4500 miles which made them more track tires than street tires. I only drive about 5k miles a year on my commuter, so not too big of a deal, but if you drive 1-2k miles a year that would be like an extra payment every 2 months or so...i hear that the Pilot Sport 4 is a nice tire and wears much better for the street...Either way, Michelin makes great tires in my experience...but not for the TRX

well, when you run race tires on the street..2,500-3,500 miles and only $250 a tire. I guess pay to play? im more like 10-12,000 year. But what i was paying for was never getting pulled. the PS4s obviously would go 15-20k miles on the front.

i actually think the tires they developed may work, the winter like tread action has tons of grip typically and if they are street soft, they will work great onroad.

they will suck off road. i think we may need to look at speed ratings once we start tuning these....
what will everyones track set be? lol

 

[Brotharon]

well, when you run race tires on the street..2,500-3,500 miles and only $250 a tire. I guess pay to play? im more like 10-12,000 year. But what i was paying for was never getting pulled. the PS4s obviously would go 15-20k miles on the front.

i actually think the tires they developed may work, the winter like tread action has tons of grip typically and if they are street soft, they will work great onroad.

they will suck off road. i think we may need to look at speed ratings once we start tuning these....
what will everyones track set be? lol

I live my life 1/4 mile at a time

Going to need a track set to dominate at the drag strip, right? Need lighter wheels and some grippy tires...I will wait and see what combos are yielding the best results with this truck, it is a lot of weight to get moving, and I dont want my axle shafts to look like those pictured above AWD will help though!

 

[Mack0092]

well, when you run race tires on the street..2,500-3,500 miles and only $250 a tire. I guess pay to play? im more like 10-12,000 year. But what i was paying for was never getting pulled. the PS4s obviously would go 15-20k miles on the front.

i actually think the tires they developed may work, the winter like tread action has tons of grip typically and if they are street soft, they will work great onroad.

they will suck off road. i think we may need to look at speed ratings once we start tuning these....
what will everyones track set be? lol

I’ll def be putting them to the test on the snow as soon as I take delivery. I do a lot of off trail snowmobiling and the majority of the time we are driving 12-15 miles up unplowed logging roads to get to the good off trail spots before unloading the sleds.

 

[tkdr6]

I’d be curious what “limits” he would be referring to? Any clue? Mine will be 97% driven on the street but it’ll have days that I’ll take it to the trails, sand pits, and I’ve already found a few places to jump it. I agree with you in the uniqueness of the suspension, I think that any sort of “lift” that is going to be beneficial to suspension travel is going to require lots of R&D and lots of $$$$. Will it be worth it to some? Yes. Me? Probably not. Anyone can develop a spacer/budget lift for the front and I’m sure a lot of the pavement princess crew will adopt these kinds of lifts.

I believe this is one of the videos where Ram engineers Jeff and Dan touch on larger tires imposing limits for what the truck was designed for. This is a lengthy video but entertaining/educating to watch for sure. If I recall correctly they don't get into the specific limit details, but mention something to the fact that this truck is purpose built with NO compromise for so many diverse driving experiences (snow, baja, towing, street, etc.). And as soon as you start messing with tires sizes, lifts, engine tuning, and so forth... then essentially the purpose built truck with NO compromise covering so many driving experiences, no get's impacted because the perfect design/engineering get's distorted and one or many of the driving experiences will suffer.

I think the most obvious is too big of tires rubbing causing damage due to not having enough clearance, but would also assume lifts would impact ride quality and the vehicles ability to automatically determine how to auto-dampen the shocks based on vehicle height and rebound requirements (this is constantly being electronically calculated and adjusted as you drive on all diverse terrains and speeds).

I'm an architect by trade, so I love nerding-out watching Jeff and Dan talk about the engineering design hurdles and marvels they faced with this truck.

Enjoy the video... you may need some caffeine

 

[tkdr6]

I believe this is one of the videos where Ram engineers Jeff and Dan touch on larger tires imposing limits for what the truck was designed for. This is a lengthy video but entertaining/educating to watch for sure. If I recall correctly they don't get into the specific limit details, but mention something to the fact that this truck is purpose built with NO compromise for so many diverse driving experiences (snow, baja, towing, street, etc.). And as soon as you start messing with tires sizes, lifts, engine tuning, and so forth... then essentially the purpose built truck with NO compromise covering so many driving experiences, no get's impacted because the perfect design/engineering get's distorted and one or many of the driving experiences will suffer.

I think the most obvious is too big of tires rubbing causing damage due to not having enough clearance, but would also assume lifts would impact ride quality and the vehicles ability to automatically determine how to auto-dampen the shocks based on vehicle height and rebound requirements (this is constantly being electronically calculated and adjusted as you drive on all diverse terrains and speeds).

I'm an architect by trade, so I love nerding-out watching Jeff and Dan talk about the engineering design hurdles and marvels they faced with this truck.

Enjoy the video... you may need some caffeine

Forgot to add the video link...